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Preliminary Organization 



Th(! convicttun that moral rilutalipn shoulil no tiumJ in (• 'iil with Si ruljr n'str !■ tmn to !'ii' i -iij 
that orluration shotld in rralJty In; thi! foundatton of rhataiUr is (irarticallv i.nJvt'rsal. T;!i' 
consiflofiitii'r of how this rray Uv .irtnmjjlishcd is, howcvtif, aci'Fuai hi-'l f(i;n. n ■( .my ar..,!i-s ami ko 
confusr'il hy (■I'rsoiial bias and iifcjudiLO thiit mi currgi'tit and f]<''>t''nl i1U,\t K..s lH-(!n maili- to fiivd 
iitfect to this tieliff. In our own country, with its vurvinc) (>(■( u'.'l:' r, with ilivcisi^ tfaditions and 
asyirattons. any universal action is hrsct with pitultar diffirulth '^ Tic Ko'.jtion of the prohlcm has 
heen apgrcachod hpro and then* at various tiinrs hy tiion whit frit tin' nvt I ttut' rtii.'rtiii's wcrti 
ahsortifd l»y othi^r intiTcsts, and rucrpt so far as tho Qi'ni'rai s.'t>i:.M'nt of thii romniui'sty and tho 
gcroral standard of morality h.!S affected thf? lorsonncl uf th ' mM'its of (Canada, hut little pronn'^i 
has bopii made. Thn iftiund Importance of thti issues invoivid in thoir efpct on social and 
life calls for the enlistment of men of Ihi; hest intellert and II'' l;Jghest spi'itual anil inof?! life in thi- 
Empire under conditions that will set their whole enrryy frei' from other ilaims ar;'l i.Mkf? thetr 
abilities available for tho consideration of this ('uestion. 

To secure Such talent, it would seem tu iui necessary to e;;tuhlish a futindaticm to lie i)i'in;tously 
endowed, under which men of oulslanfling n'oral earnestness, spiritual insight and wide |(,;rniivj could 
be persuaded to devote their lives to this w&rk. Thesu nicn, whose attainments anil abiiitejS would bo 
such as to secure world-wide reco;inition, would bo a prrmsnrnt committee of inquiry, with funds at 
their disposal to enable thvni to enlist the services of specialists in any department of learfimj they 
mitjht deem necessary, so that the great storehouses of knowle l(;e rriight tie made available for the 
purposes of the foundation. They would tie han^pered ,n their worr ly no commercial ccn;idh'tation, 
political purpose or sectarian aim. THEIR ONE OBJECT woiild he tj Search fi^r and sysli'i'iati^'o thn 
best means of weaving into the very texture of the life and clur.i. t"r of the growinc] child t'le 
teachings of the Great Master of Lifi; and to publish Ihi- result uf lf,.'ir inveiticiatums fur t.'ie use 
of the men and women in the orhools.. 

To give a single illustration with the above ohje,;t, such a foundation would be ahli; ti ransack 
all literature for the best material for school reaifers and tc seiure the hest talent fur th>! L-ii'pilation 
and arrangement of the same and without any reference to cost or profit uive thetr work free from any 
copyright charge to all Canada; as a permanent organization they woutil criticize, revise an.i amend 
their own work from lifne to time in the light of experience, obseive its operation in the S'~boo's and 
give the results of i*s >;:;„ jver wide aieja. 

But the work of such a foundation wc-'M not .d with tlie syst''mati?ing of rr.-it.-rial for 
instruction and investigation uf n'cthods of presentation, Beginnii') with the chilil in school, d. wouhl 
examine and classify all the influences that operate upon him t') .'iffect characti'r. It would collect and 
digest the various organized attempts to etiucale for charatler. It would profoundly alfcct the prepara- 
tion 5f teach-^rs, guide their effort and increase their po'ver for service and secure a sotial recognition 
for ocrvice given. 

Such a court of last resort would speak with authority, wrurlrl unify th(^ pur(>ose of thr -> HimIs of 
our country and help them to become a single force n:oving itic'islibly towards tho righteousness that 
exaltoth a people. 

This is an outline of the general conception, the details of whu!) have to lie woritcd cut. If it 
is held to be feasible, tho first step would be to bring togethi'r iven eminent in the tiekl C moral 
education to consult and advise as to the possibilities of the plan j/kI the best method uf procedure. 
The men chosen for consultation should be so prominent in their respective fields that they would he 
recognized as authorities throughout tho English-speaking world, 



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Huracn W.stwno.l. D.D., St'i rotary 
W. stiiiinstiT jnil Kiirliy Sir, i Is, Winniii.T) 

Mf. Bi-l-nan' 

?3f<l Mar , 1917. 

I (.if-rinl ti'M ynu I, iw 'Iit(iI ^ I fn.'l \\'.<- ;Hisf;ili(litns m thf work you am iiniliTt.iking to 
.luqiirat". I know i<l no ol))i''t tnjt tias so ifsin-i'il ni" m yrufs. Oftrn I liavc trit that a t(;w of us 
wnr>' lonr voit f'S i f ymg in tlir vtild'Tncss. anil that the tifitinnni!] of a niovcmt'rit in tins dircitinn wi'uld 
li.t Ihc w<irk of yi'a's. And luiw, a! Ihi' most unfX(»>( led monicr't. them locr uf tii'fom one th<: 
SMiBi' of thi> iniiii('(iia<y of thr visioo. Indftd. onic rtiorr niy convKtion is str.nijihincil that o tin m 
dark'Rl hours (if Ihr wnrld'n history, those forif?; whii h a,f' tiUmiatt'ly to rcdi'i'rti liunianity. ar,, sili'ntly 
woikniq lowards thi ir fullitriirnl and tliat a Wisr Ptovidrni.' OM-rtnIrs thn ills .)f mm. 

If I I an si'rvc tlH' laust; in any (apauty, no matt' 
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hurnhh', you can rely upon mi) to ht! at 

Yours sinci'rt'ly, 


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not i:oninitltr(| hutisrll tr. any part'ititar si hi'tiic, and was not sur^- thai .'ILns lotiM lir tain.M 
suuTSsfully and at Ihr same tinir hi.!.. Chnsf, Hf thou(jht it was o' {hr (|r.,(|. -^t irnp"<lan. .■. Imwi'v-r, 
to (unsiil.T thr Vkhiilf 'Ib-st'on an.l threw thr ni..rtini| i.pfn li.r iirrcral i|is. tiSSKi". 

Mr, W. J. Bulnian, thr mii|iFt,,lnr of til- r>i()vi-m.'r,t, w,is i .ilU'd iipnii tn iriffodiJC' th.^ disiiissuin, 
and qavo a lini't ski'lih of what had i-->-n Honr up tt> d,it.> tn t-st thr f, .■Imn i,t v.j'^^k.s (ommunilins 
and l.'a.l.'rs of Ihouciht. wUh a vhw to inaui|ii-a!in(| Ihr pn.pns.'d niuwnn nt. H- -tjt'-l thai thi^ Ri^v. 
Dr. Chcwn. nn passinfj through Wmntpct) r, < rntly, tijil lit .^ti >l^^^'■•l tn .is. i-rtjin !■:-■ f.'< [inij towards 
sui-l. a trovtii^.t'.t in tin- Wtstrrn Provinirs, and su(|?l' stfil thi- ihairnian should a-.k Dr. Chown 
to t-'po'l Ins fniilmgs, 

Rrv. Dr. (.'h(,wn Stdti'd tliJt I" toin'd tht' Irjdi-rs in thf Chun h, liusmfsa and rdocatiiiiial lifo 
iti the Wi;.I 111 (avof nf thr tr.ahir-ijs of th>> rthn s of Chrisl, Tao main n-asiidS W.ti' advani,.'d for 
this ptibition. !'"'■ to r.'sist ni.finrnonisin, anit s.'io'id. tu iiw Ih.> for.'upi-spi'akiny pnplci of thi' 
Wfst Ihi! propi'r iiitais of liulli and intrijnty. (J^.riaila had now tlui nunal iiMdorship on tlm North 
American continent, and d louM only tif prrscrvtid hy thi> moral education of thi; cliiliin'n, Hi: iJid 
not think that thr Bilili' i ould hi' put in the sihools. nor louM n-lnjion ho taught m th schools, hut 
h(i liclirvi'd that thf fthu s of Chnsl coul-l I": umvt'fsally aicrpted. He founi) tht; Prf;:,hyti'nan, 
Mt:th()dist and Anijluan ptincipliis not to In; in opposition and hi- lit-ltt'v.'d thi' Ji'ws wujid bf> in arcofd 
in all .■ssrntials. and that Roman Catholic co-oprtati'in mi'iht h.- assumi-n il thi- plan was worked out 
on tiroad lini^s. If tins was nonr, thn personality of Christ. I)fhmd thn t^thics taught, niitihl he niadf 
more and more felt. 

Dr. Dann'l Mdnlytf; stated that, undoul'l'vlly, t*i'' true uti|'i(t of rral I'ducalion is chara'.ti^r. 
He challengttd the suggestion that moral teai;hinii in tho puhlir schools had not bfion effective and stated 
that Riaht vs. Wrong had been the underlying principle of disciplinn and education in the public 
schools, and that the greatest training in such principles had been given in tin- schools 

Thr «holP quMlion sI.(h,1,I 1: all *i'h hy a ul "'", ahl. t., <i™o(0 all th,.„ li.m: J.»l 

,hou,M to Slu,ly ami,„a..,.n „1 tl,,- n,a,„.rs m.„lv,.l. an.l that th,s sh„ul,l b. don. l,y Hie t.«t 
avaMat.1.. talrnt m th.' En,,l,sl.-sl»-3l<,ni, «o,l,l. no ono m 11,,. -...anliim :«■.„,, bound to ad.,|.l any 
pri'SPnl plan. 

Dr. W A, MHnlyr,. claimed that all was not wHI in thn Slain today an., Unrmany *a» 
goinii 10 the wall Dncausn nl lack ol ii'oral lrainin(|. 

Them was no aonnral aarnnir-nt as to whnlhn, Ihn .nspons.l.dd, lu, n,oral Uaining should hn 

„lac..d on Ihn lion,,-. tl.n .lunih o. Ih.. school. Tl,n school was unqunslionahly thn hnsl n, un, now 

imparting moral instrurtion. , 

A tomrn.lln.. su. I, as that sugaoslod by Dt. Dann.l Milnlym ha-l nnvnr 1 , ,n ..<,slanon, an.l 

noukl n,ak,- now r«omm..ndalions dnaling wilh (he mot:«c, molhod of inst.udion, an,l praclicn 

,,specbna morals. Thn general alUlu.lo ol Iho ehi.d.on would luvn a ml dluence on Ihn hon.n. 

Sucb a commiltee would be able lo on what to a.o,d nnd what to do, not only in the schools 

hut in the home an,l in the rhurch. Leadership ,s n,-.. He suggested a committ.>e should 1.0 

aonomted lo wh.dhe, or not II,.. eon,m,ss,on suggested »..uld be worth wh this corhmillee to 

report to a subse'iuent n,i'|.lf 

His Honour Lieulenaiil-Ciovernor Sir Jamr'S Aikins state.l that the spiril ol Canada musl b-ad 

this eonhnent. A stron., 'horal teaching was required. The moral characK.r ol the peopli, wou e- 

b.rmine the future ol Canada, fiermany had been characlcr.ze.l by an abnegation ol religion in 
education. Teaching ol religion .s necessary. The present world struggle was one ol Gorman lorco 
against British right. He thought all that could bo done in Canada lust now should be done while the 
people were in a rocepli.e mood ami that it was important to gel public senliment behind a movement 
to emphasize and develop moral and religious education. 

Rev. Dr. Baird slahid that he thought the need ol moral education was generally admitted. 
.„., crux ol the question was its leasil.dity. Previous schemes with tho same end m view had lallen 
down because ol practical dillic.jHies. He layorod tho indi.ocl teaching ol morals and thought m ■<« 
depended upon the personality ol the teacher than oh anything else. He did not lear pulling Christ 
in the loreground as a t,.acl,er ol moials. keeping out all doctrinal or theological questions, and was 
ol the opinion that the whole mailer resolved itself into -•raking any proposed scheme leasible. 

Prolessor Osborne dwell upon the importance ol . lucation and the better.henl of text books. 
Mr W J Bulman suggested thai there should be a national conference to consider the whole 

guesbon, the ob,e, I ,n view being to dignify education and in Ih ,d produce a new nalion, such a 

conlerence to include men who would be brought Irom all parts of the English-neaking world lo consult 
and advise with those attending the conlerence. 

Mr. Edward Anderson suggested that the n,e(.lii,g appont a comn.illee lo consider what practical 
steps could b., taken and that Mr. Bulman should appoint a nominating comnellce to choose such a 

Mr. Bulman, in reply, suggested that all prosenl who were laymen, together with the heads of 
the churches represented, should comprise tho committee. 

Tho chairman endorsed the iilea ol a nominating committee. 

Rev. Dr. Christie suggested a designation for the committee, such as -.Duly and Discipline 
Committee," in order to avoid the prejudice ol sects. 

Prolessor Osborne thought that tho committee should include representatives ol all sects, learmg 
opposition ol some if their representatives \ 

I not included or consulted. 

Chipf Justu-t! Mathffs iniiijift!(l wdctlmr it was propostid to makti this a Oominion-widi) movfl- 
mrnt and, uyon thti chairmun rr[)lying in thr; affirmative, the chief justico statiid that h« thought it 
advisahlfi to hoiil similar preparatory mnntinos in th« otho, large cities in Canada, hoth east and wnst 

The chairman indicated that this wnuld no doulit bo done, proferahly by laymen. 

It was fmally moved by Mr. Anderson, and sficondod by Mr. Bulman. that the laymen in 
attividjiKi' at this meeting, totjethtir with His Graie the Archbishop, Rev. Dr. Chown and the 
RfV. Dr. Baird. hi; appoint<;il a committee to fiHiimlate a plan to further the object of this meeting, 
Mr. Bulman to be convenor of the (ommillee. 

Carried unanimously. 

Hia Grace the Archbishop, with the manifest approval of the meeting, thanked His Honour the 
Lieutenant-Governor for the privilege of meeting at Government House, and for the interest ho had 
shown in this movement and promised his active co-operation in the work of the committee appointed. 
The meeting then ad|0urneil. 


Wmnipeg, 29th Mar., 1917, 

Dear Mr, Bulman: 

I have been thinking a good deal about the meeting on the 27tb. I am trying to make clear m 
my own mind the field anit method of moral instruction and training. The thing is very much bigger 
that I at first thought, and the work of the foundation would keep one going forever. The enclosed 
outline, if you think it worth reading, will give you some idea of what I conceive to be the scope of 
an investigation which might be undertaken by such a committee as you had in mind. 
Sincerely yours, 

W. A. MclNTYRE. 


1. As staled. 

2, To make clear the ideals which should be established in home, church and school, and to 

show hu\ 

( these ideals can be realized in industrial, social and political life. This would lead to an 
examination into economic conditions and prevailing practices In the business world, with suggestions for 
overcoming wrong and injustice. 

3. To devise and make known the best methods of promoting physical development and tho 
best way of preventing physical decline that precedes or accompanies fceble-mindedness and incapacity. 
This would lead to our examination of housing and tare of children, an investigation of the causes of 
moral degeneracy with auqqestlons for improving conditions. 

4. To enquire into conditions of government and control in homes, schools, shops, factories and 
other places where young people are found. There would here bo an examination into the cause of 
dishonesty, impurity, inefficiency, irresponsibility, etc, and a suggestion for remedying conditions. 


MINUTES OF A MEETINC, ii( Vn Blir.'JJ IM tlH- City ot Wirn 
in dltinilatiM-: 

II Moral E'iurjtKMi h.l.l m 
,!.iy, April .Iril. 1017, .il 8 i 

Bujrd Room at 
Till! following 

His (irjc' Arrhliishon Math. ■son .hairnun , W. J. BuliTian, J. Frank Fish.'r, R. W. Crai<i, 
Prof. A W. Crawlurii. Prrsiilfr.l Mi Lran. Dr. D.;.ii.'l MHiityif, E. Luitit^, Hrv. Dr. Bainl, H B. 
Thnmiisoti. ,J. A. Ma( hray. D< W. A. Mdnty.r, Prof. AI'lii, D. W, Mi Kit( fiar. and 

Mr. R. W. rj'ij was rrijiirs' 'il to a; t as S.Tr.'Ufy of tli.> mrrti.ig. 

Ttir .nmuti^s of tlu; on'fting held at Oovcrnmrrit Housi- on Tu-isilay, March 27th, wiTir rt-ai 

A i),'ni.ral diMussiori took plaui (onirrni.ui i^ays ami mi-ans of lifst promotifig the otijfct in vjow 
and It vxas finally niovfd hy Professor Allt-n an.l st^coruli'i) liy Mr. Thompson and carrii'd, that a 
fjnamo uir. .mitten hi! appointnd. with Mr. W. J. Bulman as ihairman, thi- (ommitten to bo. chos.Mi 
by Mr. Bulrrao himst^lf. Camnd. 

It was movtid by Mt. BulnMn and sn.ondrd hy Mt. Fishci that Ihi! .haifman a commdUifi 
to conduct correspondencii with Dr. Smllnr .ind any oth.Ts the (omnnttrr thought d.islrahlc regarding 
thuir attendanie at tho proposed conffriincc in Canada on Ihi^ suhji-a nf moral oducation, and that this 
ronmnttrf; also get m tourh with roprfsrntativr m.'n in all the provinus m Canaila to rnlist th,- 
CD-operation of themselves and groups of others m cai.h provmu-. 


Thf; chairman named Dr. Dannil Mrlntyrti and Dr. W. A, Mclntyre on this commillei;. Mr 
J. A. Machray sjggested that litoraturo covoring the qurstion as far as possible lie made availal}le to 
all those intiMi'Sti^d in " sul)jett of the proposed conferenre. 


Thi' chairman stat.'d that liy arrangement with the Rev. Dr. Chnwn they ' 
1 a number of represrt^talive men m the Cdy of Toronto, when the whole c 
:usst;d and the result reporled to the (ommiltie in due course. 

■re to meet shortly 
' ^ would be 

The meeting further unaniniously approved the formation of (jroups of interested citizens in each 
of the larger centres in Canada and that a d.-putation of two from Wtnni()e() should be sent to visit all 
these groups to stir up their mterest and autive co-opuration in arranyiny for the proposed Dominion 

The meeting then adjourned. 

MINUTES OF A MEETING of Itir Committi!(> on Moral E.luiatio-i h.'l.l m tli.! Board Room of 
tfiii Industrial Bureau in thti City of Wmnipfg. on Tut^siiay, May ;?:U(j. at 4. JO p.m.. 

ThiTO wiTe prt'srnt: His Grar ■\r(fit»sho|J Mathtson ( hairman . W. J. Bulman, PrcsMliTil 
McUan, H. M, Biilchor, F, A. E. Harr^itton. H. B. Thomiison. A. Johnston, D. W. M< har . Dr, D. 
Mclntyrn. Dr. W. A. Mclntyrtt. S- R. Tarr. J. Frank Fishrr ami W. Pitarson. 

Minutes of last mmdmg wore ftiarl and approved. Hts Grace then n^porti^d briefly on his visit 
to Toronto and rirruspondenco from the Rev. Dr. Chown was read re later ineetmij of Toronto 
committee, at wnicti tho following resolution was adopted: 

It was moved by the Rev. Or. Chown, seconded by Mr. G. H. Locke. Librarian, 

"That Iho members of this meeting 

■'1. RecogniJO the seriousness, urgency and difficulty of tin; problem prttsenfcd to us; 

"2. RecommtiOd the formation of local groups for serious preliminaiy study; 

"3. Declare our readiness to co-operato with Winnipeg in holding a confeiunce, with preference 
for Winnipeg as the place of meeting; 

"4. Approve of tbe suggestion to invite Professor Sadler to take part in the conference." 

Toronto, April 241h, 1917. 

Sir Rot>ert Falconer was also requested by the Toronto committee to appoint a special committee 
for study of this matter, to be ready for the conference. 

W. J. Bulman, chairman of the ^^inanco Committee, reported that to date he had received 
pledges to the extent of $5,000.00 for the purpose of promoting the conference, tt was moved by 
Dr. W. A. Mclntyre and seconded by D. W. McKerchar that this committee request W. F, Osborn'! 
to spend a week in Nova Scotia and a week in Now Brufjwick introducing our work and that 
W. J. Bulman wire him, adding that if, in his opinion it would help, ho should try to induce 
Presidtint Mackenzie to accompany him; the committee to pay their expenses. 


Moved by Dr. D. Mclntyre anit secomled by ^. Frank Fisher that the men present, with Mr. 
Craig and members of the Finance Committee, be an executive committee. 

The meeting then adjourned. 

[ XfilArlS hHoM Lf-TTFRS i ,F PFlor W F. OSBORNE TO W. J. Bl'LMAN 

Jiinu 0th, 1917. 
My O.a' W. J 

L'loyHril iiri,| vul'mit.ujus f'tioft on ( rrd.'f (( tnn. Shall pfoluttly tut ija into suiti 'I. 'il -n 
sn; lumt iiiiv!' iij >(; I' IS, I sh.ill (I'ljbiltiy ornit th-' rninljH ot'oraivli .idiI just tjivn kcfiirl (il nisjils. 

Hj'I a inn.jily fi[i,imi| tnii*; at f-'fi'iltTiLloti. Di.t ml -,<) Hnar |iolttii.;jrii (ir nuwspap.trs; not an iota 
(il puttln-ity. Fri'liriij rtjs nially i-ii 'ilh-nl, Di'scrili.'.l *.li<'ini' in gunnrat an.l situation m *hn;h I left 
things was this: If avuLilil'', uf .r> SDon as titt js, Cdnfernnce will lio on t;ii)is wtii-ri!, do not 
kiiuw. Comnussiiiii mLm is .iiiiui v nru' w>rjl ; .,.. c|is'uss'"i, no tlouhl along with oth.irs; turn thu 
matlt)r ovit m y\at ni.injs ami if yuu ((i-t woril Uuu\ us. li>' ntaily to ait m iiriltsr to securi) 
rr|]. .;.-.-■. ifuliurl W.i-tlly ill lin' piilwHlL.', 

Wulfvilh', N.S„ JunM 17tli, 1917. 
D.Mr W. J. 

HiTi' IS liijitKf't rnou.jh for yi,j. 

St,i,-.^' liFi.| liryuiiil all my hiiprs. L'.ri'at.'.it mli'fi^st anioni) all th.!S.^ men. Am smiply aliSOftinJ 
m |oli. i: VJU -.luiAr ,i(iy si.jns ot flaijyini] now. I shall proil you tin, bocauat; w" must not fail now 
.ift.'f,ii'j thi' ii^J'stiim. I IxilJtivt! th.> thinn can \k oivi;n vitality hy sottmy it up as intiigral part 
of thi* work of i:onsi;rvation anil rt'con?.riii,tion norossary aftur thts war. Tht!r« will bu all manniir of 
s(.ht!mi:s for conservation of iiiattinal fHSOurci-s. Li i this Iwi a cnncurnml sthnmo for conserving 
spiritual ri'suurc.'S of nation, I am so dfiiyhtcii that \ am prt^parnil to (jivo morn timt! to it. 

Halifax, Juni! 23rcl. 1917. 

Di-ar W. J.: 

I a'li pultfui all sorts of personal iliitails in my notfs tr you to l(;t you st>n [he atmosphore of 
cor.lialily in whiili ulia is li.'ifuj i^nttirtami^l. 1 count contiil.tntly that you will undorstanil this u. tho 
si-ns-' ifi wlnrh I ir.can it. 

At Win.lsur, Arthlji>ih(j[> Wornll, uf Nova Scotia, was most cordial to m<!. I ri;coyniz«d tho im- 
portai:rn of tins, both from Halifax atid piuwincial points of vi.iw. 

■ ■ii I (.allrd on Li';uli.nant-Goviifnor Grant, 1 found him most sympathetic to idea. Ho issues 
tiiii i.a Cordially proposed, himself, that meuting ho hrld at Government House, which it is to bo 
(..■>t Tuesday evcntny. Am niakirg several departures here. First, and perhaps less itii(iortant, is that 
at least 7a calls an' (juinij out Oovoininent House paper. This may givo us mucding of, say, 35 or 40. 

I hav r(?i> ivi i| letter (rom Governor Wood, of New Brunswick, consenting to act as provincill 
heail of yiuup thrt.-. On his suggestion, I have written to Prof. Sidney Hunton, Sackville, tho 
Governor's pern, "i^nt honie asking him to assist the Governor in any work involved. I am so 
imjiressfd wiln puleidiahlies o( scheme that I am willing to give tho time thai may bo needed to da it 

June 26th, 1917. 

Dear W. J. ; 

Halifax meeting tonight. Prospects of the best -remains to be seen how it will work out. It at 
least looks as if the Maritime Provinces ar-' going to tie in a splendidly responsive attitude to our 
ultimate t.all. 


TO rHEDtMlr.Ti'!. ', II 


Arrivimj tn Fr.-ilrfK tiiri, I (alli"l ll (>n(t> on Bisltrtp Ri.hjriUifrt Jti'l w-iH v'y rof-lidlly r.'t t'tvtl, 

E.lilJ^n,.,! irair.t In lu« (imiin.'nl, Mil Lonllhi|i r,.|..|r(.| In Ih- nf .in ..ll.inDl llj n A (Oij|il<i of ynafS ago. un.lnf hil to nukn a syiialins of s. not J'at ol.l.yjtnry 

m Ihn •,hnoij, I infnr that th.! nffoft y«as Ij'gniy, ■( not n>r lu.,y..|», in llm h,in.l» nl iTntgy, 

Th,. iKipglal.on of N.'« B.ot..v.„ k i» al.nul 176.1IJ0. Of ll"-"- Il^.'Hl i" muO'l numO.'rj am Cjlholrr. 

Thntii jr.. no J.-paral.. l«hool« Jl siji h r.'i in|oiJ|.il Oy Ij* .«lan.l thai in th.. la.o.'r tho Catholi.« c.'.lain Khorli Tl... iiioimjal . ■ ."ar or so ago irompruo.l Ih.'si. f.alurnt: 
A »yiljl.lis of li.l.l.' ..■.l.h.igs, i.i.'mo' nation of wsiaa.'S, .minjlion nn Ihn lam... In |ia..jnth..«n I 
may say that unil.T th.. .■ ic .ool layy inslrurlion in Ethn » is oi.liiiatorv. A liit ol .s 
im[K)S...I or prpsl ..l..'.l. t.i.t tho t.-a. nt.r rhoosos hnr own yyjy of ' n.iv.'ying th..8.' His Lurilship. as 
l.ia.ling Ih.. uniLirtakinii fo' Iho Prot..Blant ilonominallnns. .<. hjr.,| Mints vy.lh th.' Iw.i Roill,.n 
Cathol.. tiishops. Thn upshot was that thi. latL.t il..ilinn.l Ih.. proposal, chnifly on Ihn groun.l mat 
It app.'ar...l to r..coiinlzn thn val'.l.ty C "iifivat.! intntpti'tation" of th.t scripti ns anil th.. nffort 
ti.rmir.atBil a Inll.-r from tho chinf ..iipi.r of n,|ii,-jtion in.ficating that thn .iroposal .U)ulil 
not Ito entertantiil. 

I pomlocl out to His Lorilship thai th.-r.. was n.itat.l.i iliffiir.' b.'twnon thii at>ov.. »i:hnm« 
an.l Ihi, on., n.'.t I Tho formnr was puro, unalloyo.l ■■Builo"; ours involyii.l olhical 

pr.nriplos basJil on thi- spirit an.l pra.:l.i:n of Jesus. In In. cony.-y, y tho wholo tontont of sohi.icls 

ol instfuclion. H.s Lorilship. whilo showing Ihn gr.'alnjl ooriliality lo oar uo.lnrt .^ mg. in this 

intnrylow o.prnssp.l tho puoslion "as to whi-thnr tho olllii al pri.i •■« ol Josus ,an ho 

wiltmut Ihn sanction of Ih.; Book wli.iro they am founil." It will 1 ■ not.v that h.. rov.'rts to this 
.l.iulit in a totter of whirh I shall givn a copy 

His Lor.lship gavo run a .or.lial li-ttnr of introilii, !i'in to Prolissor Kinrsloail. of Ihn Uiiivi-rsity 
of Now Brunswiik. 

I nn«t inlorviiw.'.l Hi:. Honour, t.ov.-rnor Jo-iah Wool lo whom I hail an' introilu.tion 
(rom Sir Jamos Aik.rrs. Goyrinor Woo.l showial mo nviiry consiilnratioii, anil lat.'r I .injoyn.l his 
hospitality. I coynmil our srh.'ni.. vnry fully in convorsalion. anil ho promisn.l any assulann. thai ho 
coulil This prointsn. as thn sogut.l shows, ho imulnnimitnl ynry fully, 
miscarriago or at any rato th.. failure ot th.' proposals of a f.'W ynars ago. 
on tho sut)Joct lal"r tho Insliop. ao.l Ihn (ont.iiL 
wore far from unlavorablo. 

Having alroaOy placcil our idi'as l-oloro Chanc-llor J.mis. i.l th.i Univnrsily ol N.R , at Ottawa. 
1 n.'.t saw Profossor Kinisl.Mil. • lo .ai h .asn I inai.i a lull Mat. .™ nt of thn Winnipeg, so 
I shall omit furhir ,..|..,encn lo n.y part in th,' .ony.'.satii.n, Piol.-ssor K.crst.iad entereii actively into 
too consolnralion of the matter. The gist ol his view, as in this interview, was that ethics 
cannot ho appended as an ailrlilion to education. Tho wholo .Hlocational process must lio made 
ethical. I pointc.l out that this accorded with our scheme, inasmuch as wo forwar.l. as a part 

. ... . , ( , --.. -I tiok.! •'.■!• .vnol,' h" Oui-h.i.J foil inferenti.ilty. with 

of our 3.:ncmc, to toe nvuT-a'ejo u! a =.-1 ^' ■■• ^'O"*! ■■'■'. -v.ia j_.i„j .j 

the spirit of Christian ethics. 

I next called on Chancellor Jones, who showed tho same cor.lial attitude he had displayed 

at Ottawa. 

He alluded to tho 
He had full conversations 
■.St of t.olh shows that their conclusions 

In lontulUtion *ith Htt Monou'. ChjnrcHof Jonni. ProfoMOf ,<.i'*»(h4»I aft I Majof Otbofo*. 
Mh« ha« tiwn i foii.litnt ol Ffiulofiiton lor r*.-nlv yj'«. *r" '"*(♦. uul 4 tut of nimmt to t)ti •nv.(.-l 
to jn mioffiwl mcotino. Imolwotjllv- I may sjy lha( I l«"pt tfu-l'ouiily J*«y ffmii |H.htHiani with 
whom th.T Umn at«»un.ti'.t J'. I"" l.-g-iiljtijn. mj<i .n •.•muki. ari'l thjt *<■ .(.■..i|..,| that, m Ih.- .am. of 
J town m. Ij-.rr than F.. ,liri. tnn 8 000 -t Moul.l t»i' n.T.-iwry ..ith. - . .nvilr no .Iwgvm.-n iif ti) 
mvitf Jll 1 l^-'lit I" """"I ""' '■'"[■hJHii <>* '"V in«lruitin"« im Ijy pf.'lH)fnl'''amr ar'<t i onsfdu'iitly our 
<|..nt.»() wa» to .nv.t.. no"« )Ult a* <U.h; th.i .tnl n..t i". lu.l.' B.Hh.i,. R„ hjr.Mon or Prof.'^*..- 
Kmrilttait, who. whitn a Baplmt cipruyimn. tpoahs virtually a* a Uyr-ian. 

Hart Boot anrl Shott Co. 
' Sihool Boanl. 

Tht- lilt of iitiwni work.ul out l>y thf«H four loral rnm wafl a« follow*; 
•H>9 Honotr, Oovr'nof Jonah Wooil. 
Hi» Lofi!ihi(). thft Bithop of Fn-rifficton. 
'Chanrrllor J;;nr», U'UV^'rsity ut Nrw BfuniWitk. 

•Dr. Kirrstfjil. Un.vrrstty of Uv* Bryrswuk, Dfpartmi'nt of Ef onomn ». 
Proft'BSor Popplcfctonc, Un.yi'rSity of Ni'W Bf unswn k 

•Prof.'«nor J. A, Slylirs. Univt^r-itty of Nf v BrunBW.i k, tna' net- ring Di-partm 
*Profi'S«)r R, B. fVlillcf, U. Illy o( Nrw Brunswick, Forostry. 

Dr. BriilU''S. Principal, Normal Ikhool. 
■Dr. Foslrf, Prmniial, High & hool, 
•J, D. Palmt-r. Pr.!5i(|cnt, Hart Bool ,in(l Sho*: Co 
•John Ri'i.j, lonni'f' 

W. Ci. Clark, Wh. 
•James Lrmont, Alii, -i ami mtrmlHT 

M'. Justicn Crockrtt, . rcmt^ Court. 
•Maior Oslwrnii. 

Dr. Van Wart, Chairman, Sihixil Board- 
Mr. Hawkins, Maiia{j''r. Bank of Montreal. 

Geo. Taylor, Manager, Royal Bank. 

Arthur Dipp, Lawyttr. 

Geo. Hodyp. Wholt'sali) Groct-r, 

R. F. Randolph, Wholi-sa'.'- Grwrn-'s and LumlM;r. 

Harry CampbdII, Rrlail Br«ts and Shufs. 

•Frinl. Chpslnut, Druggist. 

■John J. Wt^ddall, Dry Goods, mtiiitipr Srhool Board 

•J, W. Spurdisn, Rt'tir^d Bank Manaijvr. 

T. Carlton Allen. Cl^rk, Court Common Plias. 

J. S. Nrill, HardwjrR. PriiSidt'nt Board of Tfdd«. 

Arch. Frasor, LumtM'rman. 

•Dr. Geo. Inch. Normal School staff. 

This makds 29. W<^ balanci^d (■vnly Conservativi's and Liberals. Ol thpso 29. 15 rrspondet* to 
our invitation, tiut I give all the names Ijwauae thoy may bo of uso latter. Thr address, Ffedericton. 
will h« sufficii^nt in case we wish to writi- them. 

II »ill bB nolml that I iliil not (Innm it wise to invitii lo I'l.' mra-ting Dr. W, S. Carter, 
Supi-iiilenilent of Eilucation for the province, Ni'* Brunswick has no Minister of Education, so, rn- 
gar.lino h>in as ilo facto Minister, I followed tile Winnipeg example. Howe,|.r, it was suggested to mo 
that I should call on him as a simple matter of courtesy, and I was e.tremely pleased thai I ilid. 
He IS president of the Dominion Educational Association, and said that it our meetings wont forward 
he would lie glad to sec us meet at some time in the same city with that organijation, and at any rate 
thai our liedings should be brought before it. It will not likely mi .1 again until Odolier, 1918. 
I did not go into much detail with him, but ho showed more than routine interest. He said sound 
ethics must be kept before the child all the time; thai le«t-liooks should eel be made to order but 
should bo the work of insight, leisure and genius which, I pointed oul, would be far lietter 
apprniimaled lo by our proposal if it gets to the Commission or Bureau stage, than by commercial 
methods, and that if the religious ilenominalions could como to seo oye to eye il would probably bo 
found thai the Departments of Education would be ready lo go a long way. Dr. Carter fully saw why 
11,1 had not been invited to the meeting, and I left him feeling that pleasant relations had been 

The call to the meeting was isueil by Governor Wood. I wish to keep tho original that I have 
as it may lie of use to me in places visited later; but I transcribe it herewith; 

'My Dear Sir: 

"Prafessor W. F. Osborne, chairman of the Faculty of the University of Manitoba, introduced to 
me by Sir James Aikins, Lieutenant-Govomor of Manitoba, has arranged for a mooting to be hold in the 
Board of Trade rooms on Thursday evening, the 7th instant, at 8 o'clock. 

"He will present lo this meebng a project with regard lo ethical instruction in tho schools of 
Canada. The project as I understand it is vol in its initial stages; Professor Osliorno is hero simply to 
discuss the matter in an informal way; and no one will be committed in any way by attending lo hear 
his informal exposition of the plan. I may add that the plan, which he has discussed with me, is under 
discussion by a group of highly repres.'ntalivc citizens of Winnipeg, headed by Sir James Aikins. 

"Trusting you may bo able lo tie present, I am. 

Very truly yours, 



To this call, of the gentlemen named above, those responded by attendance whose names are 
checked i'. In other words, there were present 14, Bishop Richarilson had lo leave town but sent a 
letter, which I shall transcribe. Dr. Kiorslcad moved that His Honour preside, and this resolution was 
put by Chancellor Jones. Professor J. A. Styles, of the Engineering Department of the University, was 
named secretary < I may say that Professor Styles impressed mo in a very marked way when ho came 
lo speak; I thought he was guile against our idea, but he wound up in a very powerful way fully on 
our side.) 

Early in the course of iny remarks I read the letter which I had received from His Lordship 
the Bishop, of which this is a copy: 

■■Pnifi'ssor W F, Oslmrnn, 

l.'ucrn Hotel. 

"My Di'itr Mr. Oslinrnr, 

■'I n:(itt(t v(^ry much that circumsfanctts will'' it ini|iossitilo for nm to attiiml \hc mot^timj 
whii^h has, I understaml. hnfin arrangud for tomorrow night liy His Honour tti« Lieutcnani-Govi;iru»r. 
I have not tia<i time to th.nk very nm± about thu sihrmi!, m whosn intt^rrsts you nrv. good rnouijh to 
visit us in FfL't! line ton. liut I am impfcsscd with the fact tfuit it is far too important in its pussitilr 
issutis for us to tl<ul lightly with it. As I said to you. y.'stcrday. I am v*^ry dojtilful wliiith.T it is 
[lossibl.! to g.vii tiffi'rtivr ethical teaching dissociated from the sanction of the Word of God, hut I fnol 
that we ari' (I'ftainly lioun'l to consider very cart fully any proposition which would seem to makii that 
even remulety possible. Thiire is a breadth of vision .*!>out this particular scheme which makes it very 
attractive, I hope, therefore, that you will receive sympathy and ■=.u|.pe.t .n this preliminary considera- 
n, and that unumstanrrs will war' . us in iurV-" following it up. With all good 

tion of thi> 

Sincerely yours. 


At the close of my remarks, I asked His Honour to mvite discussion by thdse present. 
Everyone m attendance responded. I kept careful, though necessarily rapid, note of the gist of each 
statement, I transcribe *h(! same fiom my notetmok. preservinrj ttie exact telegraphic form in which I 
took it. so that it may bi"; clear that my personal equation is counting for nothing and that the views 
are those of the contriliutors. 

Dr. Jones. Chancellor of the University of New Brunswick .Chancellor Jones, t am informed, was 
a member of the commission that selected th)( site for the University of B.C.. and is a member of the 
Conservation Commission : ■'In New Brunswick we have stale education, no separate schools, two 
races Catholics and Protestants reasonably equal in numbers; must bo careful. Hov , this scheme 

does not seem likely to arouse controversy. Ethical instruction is imperative in New l _,iswick schools. 
Exact matter is not proRcritied. That is. teaclier can select own way. Best work m ethics due to 
personality of teacher, I am entirely sympathetic to proposal raised by Professor Osborne. Think it 
would be a great idea to have a Bureau that would stimulate, inspire anrl cause emulation. Wt- bear 
much about Germany's aciomplishmont. Well, Germany had a Moses not one that wo want, but one 
that suited her, evidently. We need the ecjuivalent of a Moses in education. An active and eminent 
commission would b-' alile to render great service. They would lie a centre of suggestion. Tho dosira- 
bitity is sure. Desirdhility is so great that it 'S worth while trying to discover if it is feasible." 

Dr. Foster. Principal, Hi(|li School. "Complete accord with what Professor Osborne has advanced. 
Necessity is great. Highly desirabb;. Effectiveness and feasibility a matter for discussion. Business 
of teaching in this province is in hands of very young girls. We are getlirig what ii 
We pay for cheap teaching and we are getting it. Most effecti 
I shall be glad to assist \r, any way I can." 

! paying for. 
,al teaching given by examploiS). 

Or, KJerstead, Professor :onomics and Philosophy m University: "'War has boen testing our 
insbtulions and our education. We must learn in our nabonal life to combine tho spirit of the allies 


with th« nfficienry of Gprmany, Education thai is tiot ethical is not t-ilutation at all. Our tdutation ■ 
must t)f) socializtt'1, that is. our chiMrrn must lie ciluiat.'il to s.■rv.^ Our nlu<ati(.ii , U>- mail.- to 
(lovf;iop loyalty to the group, siilf-sacrifitr to tho community. W- must not lilumiiir atuno in u Itao- 
ha^ard, hit-and-miss way any longnr. Wi' must liavi^ rflicit-ncy for the rralizinu of hiijh iilrals. 
Conference would ho a splendid thing. Thi- licst way to t«a(.h nhgion is to live it. Moraldy is too 
tiiy a thing just to tack on to education. Ynu can traih a proposition in mathematics in way that 
may have more religion in it than a theoloiiual creid. The gram! .'ml of erjuration is the production 
of for christian servme. Tht! child may he taught to wash dishi^s m a way that is the essence 
of Christianity. I do not think our schools are hy any means failing as Uaininy yrounds for democracy ■ 
and trur! democracy is applied christiandy," 

Freil. Chestnut druggist : "Great thing is to put child in sound ethical atmosphere. This being 
so, idea is a good one. Such a Board louhl do yreat things. Have children of my own. Have come 
to conclusion that atmosphere is more important than lext-liooks. Wdl t)e glad to ro-oporate." 

J. D. Palmer 'president, boot anil shoe company; "Have listened to proposal with gre-,l mteiest 
and appreciation. Average man ••oes not pay enough attention to education. Country wdl be much 
benefded if we change that atti;ij:>_. Ethics is the foundation and l)asts. Everything else subsidiary 
and off-shoots. Illustrate: Man '.-f outstanding at)ility not straight goes astray lands in penitentiary. 
What an economic loss, what a tragedy! Might this schemo not be enlarged to include technical 
education? Thoroughly in accord with idea and will do all I can to help. 

"We liave Commissions for all 
.'duration? It would elevate teachirg 

Professor R. B. Miller (Forestry Department of Urdversity : 
kinds of things. Why not one responsible for assistance in ethical 

John Reid 'boot and shoo company^ "Grand idea." 

Professor J. A. Styles (Engineering Department, Universityi; "Am not in complete acconl with 
everythinn that has l)een said here tonight. Professor Osborne has asked for reactions on the idea. My 
reaction slightly antagonistic, The scheme is a nihl)le at something real, liut it is not a l>itr. Prof' -':< 
Osborne has said Canadians have been lacking in national imagmalton. This scheme may be lackmj in 
imagination, too. 1 suspect that the man who originated this idea had been reading about the Cinrmans. 
There should lie such a Commission, Board, or Bureau in Canada. It should put emphasis ':.• the 
proper aspects of democracy. Democracy seems to me to be tottering. Walking with a child the other 
day I came to a bit of ground planted with potatoes. I said; 'Let us go around and not spoil the po- 
tatoes.' She said; 'I'm going right through; I don't want to be botheriH).' Young Canada does not 
want to he bothereil. Should have a Commission that will seriously study what kind uf nation we want 
to be. Results of its labors would be; the Rebirth of Democracy." I cannot help swerving from my 
policy of making no comment to the extent of saying that Professor Styles produced a great impression 
un the meeting. By way of paradox he had moved forward to the finest tribute to the idea that the 
evening had produced.) 

Professor Styles, in conversaliun later, used this sentence 'whuh I julled down "I would put 
up a notice to the effect that until the Commission reaches a conclusion and tenders da findings, our 
systems of education are to be regarded as tempurary make-shifts." 

He also said; "Get a nidn hkv Juhn R. Moll on such a Comniissior. Tnink n\;A d would itiean 
to have a general like Mott inspiring Canadian education!" (I may add that a numt)ei of men in 
Fredericton spoke to me of Dr. Dewey, of the Univcrsdy of Columlna. as a man who might be looked 
to for diraction and counsel.) 


J. W. Spurdnn ihank manager, retired i: "Theology ia cold; Christianity la magnificent. What 
wo want IS vision. This schomr snvms to havti it," 

J. J. Wcriilall idry goods, member School Board; "Dtrlightiid with idea." 

Caorgo Inch iNormat School stafl. son of former Super! ntendnnt of Education. N.B.i; "Don't 
care where idea comes from, it is a good one. War makes nnw mnasuriis imjinrativii. Used to think 
f'Cfl school system would savo the world. Evidonlly something must tie done for schools. We 
evidently need a new element in our education. Osbotnt! is on right track. Education of thr right 
sort is the only solution for tht nation. Our provincial systems of education are not national. This 
Board would tend to nationalize the spirit of our tuucation. The teacher must be the grand ethical 
influence. Our teachers are much too young and immature. Something must bo done to make our 
teachers more permanent." 

Major Oslwrne ttwo years in uniform, many months in trenches, homo suffering from shell- 
shock, two sons in service, proprietor of business rollegr, former alderman.: "Consensus of opinion 
hero tonight is that idea is a good one. If we want to get best out of education, it must lie ethical. 
The heart of the whole thing is the inculcation on a national scale, of unselfishness. This is an op- 
portune time for launching the idea. We have learned as Britisliers that we are capable of doing big 
things. If these suggestions are carried out, feel satisfied great results will be achieved. Will do all I 
can to assist." 

James Lemont ; alderman, member School Board': 
thought ethics cold, but this thing has got passion." 

"We all sympathize with this idea. I always 

Before the meeting broke up I got the 
whom I should begin work at St. John. 

lembers to suggest a provisional list of people » 



W, F. Oshornt' 

1 the rhair, His Wdrshiii, Mayor Hayi's, 

Placf, Board of TrJtto rooms. 

Call tf miir^tiiig 9i:rit out 
Cipvrrrior Wood. 

nd siljru'il hy mayo 

Dii|)liratf of tall issued at Ffilfniton try Litiut.- 

B.^lor.! I o.vii diai-st of d.scussion, Inl me say thai <h- m.'idir.fl in all noirils savo that ol nombBrs, 
was ol th.. most oralifyinu character. The roiitnhutlon n-adii hy the men was of a very h.oh 
order. What pleased me most was the air ol erajrossed interest. Those present showed a fine 
eagerness an,l soliutude with respect to the character of our national life. Save with the qualified 
e.reption ol Principal Myles, of the Hiflh School, whose statement may be referred to, the participants 
were even more enthusiastic aboiit Mr. Bulman's iilea than were tho gentlemon I met at Frodericton. 
The meetino did not break up until 11 p.m.. ami ««en then those present seemed loath to go. I give 
this inde« of the temper of the meeting. At the close somebody asked: "Do you want a formal 
approval?" Then another said: "Oh, he's got it all .lown pages of it." Further. Mr. T. H. 
Estahrooks >Red Rose teai who, someone tolil me, has a branch at Winnipeg, ihsiste.l on llie point 
of ensuring the possibility of communication between the differed groups in the province. 1 was 
thereupon asked to reguesl His Honour. Lieubmant-Governor Wooil, to act as rallying centre for tho 
province. He does not live permanently at Frednricton, but at Sackyille, the seal of Mount Allison 
University, where I expect to go. I was asked to request Professor Sidney Hunton there to act as 
His Honour's secretary in this connection. .Incidentally, I may say that I met Chancellor Jones, of the 
Un:/crsity of New Brunswick, again this morning at the Royal Hotel. He asked me if I was j 
Wolfville, N.S., seat of Aiadia University. Ansv.ering in the allirmative, I asked him if he , 
introducing my mission to Presiilent Gotten. Ties he sail] 

aing to 
luld write 

ild do at once. I 

1 am satisfied that when the committee runs over the digest given below it will have the same 
impression as I regariling tho gratifying character of the St. John meeting. Noyorlheless, as I wish tho 
co.nmitteo to understand the situation just as it is, I must adil that only nine responded to the mayor's 
letter, out of thirty-two gentlemen addressed. The meeting was , -lied on only twenty-four hours' 
notice. I should have deferred it only the mayor is leaving the city tonight anil, owing to his personal 
character and his position, I regarded him as indispensable. The newspapers also informed mo of the 
absence from tho city of some of those called M. G. Teeil, for instance, was absent. The letter 
to Judge Forbes was returned with notice of indulficient postage. I put tho stamps on ami did not 
know he lived outside the municipality. Archdeacon Raymond has suffered injuries from burning and is 
aul..- - move about very little. I have no doubt those are only inst:,, s. However, the committee 
can draw its ,-wn conclusions. Inasmuch as the list was car.ifully complied, and inasmuch as many ol 
thoso not present are men whom we should ultimately .isolate with the scheme, I append complete 
list ol addresses. By way of parenthesis 1 may say that 1 think the original iiieinuia.,.iuin 01 Mr. 
Bulman and the minutes of the Government House meeting, Winnipeg, should now be forwarded by 
mail to all tho gentlemen whose addresses I give from time to time. This would be a pledge of the 
viulity of the project. 



■ May 

A, v.. Sk.lto.i, Mjnaarr. Bnlilti Nurtti A.n-'nu Bank. 

T. H. EsUhriKikti. Trj Mi-m, JV49 Mill St. 

(1.0 E. B.ifl'oiir v-n n.-xl .lay WMt-iahi UriK.T, 16-21 North Whaf'. 

V-ri Arituli'jMKi njynmrnl, 70 Suniintif St. 

P.«v, H. A. C<.'ly, 2W SI Jjmt-B St. 

Chmf JuMii.' MiKfowo, lUi Mr. Plvjwnt Av<v 

Dr, H S. Bfylys rdll.'iJ 0", out. h;ft (u|)ljnjtory riotr., Schools, 


H.iwjfl P. Rolitrson, Finannal Aij.'nt. :'2 Fi.;ii:ii William St. 
Or. Thus. Wjtknr, 156 Pnnc.m St, 
A (>. SVifinfif. Merchant, 58 iOng St. 

H, A. Powill, Lawyrr, Wati^iways ■ Intt-rnationali Commitnion, 22 K>ig St. isfcn nn«t >lay'. 
W. J. S. Mylfs, Printiiial, High School, 41 Dodylal Avu, 
S. K.rr, Hr.nniial, BusmtisB Colti'U-'. 9 Hai/cM Ave. 
R B. Em.rson, Hardware. Chairman School Boarit, 19-25 Giirmain St. 
R.v. R A ArniBtrong, Rector Trinity Anglican Church. 

(■',v. Hicks. PrfSnltrnt. New Brunswick Muthoilist Conforfni o, Pastor Zion Melhoditit 
Chutif- ahsi'nt at Moncton . 

R.-v. J. A. McKi^Kjiin, Mmist.'f St. Pn','rian Church, 72 Lninator St. 

Rev. Davi'l Hutchins.jn, Saiitist, 80 Main St, (Sfun nfnt ilJy . 

W. frank Hathaway, Wholesale Grocc-t. rrtiro.l, 16 Wur-I St. (mail iliilayo.l, Been nenl dayj. 

A. H. WirtmorR, PriiSiilonl Buar.l of Tra.l.!, 11-12 North Wiiarf. 

C. W. H.illamofiJ, Managnr, Canadian Bank of Commerce. 

Mr. Justice Forhr-,, C.C. Ju.lij.\ retired, Park Ave., East St. John (lettor roturnr^d. insufficiently 

A. P. Barnhill, Lawyer. 39 Princess St. 

M, G. Tepd. Lawyer, 120 Prince William St. lout of cityi. 

W. S. Fisher, Hardware, 23 Germain St. 

Dr. J. H. Frink. President Canadian Clul) mayor to- five yuars, next before present incumbcnti, 
113-115 Princf! William St, 

Lewis W. Simms, Simms Brush Mft] Co. ■ T. S. Simms & Co. Ltd,', Suspension Bridge Road, 
Fairville, N.B. : possible that this letter not delivered . 

Frank Smith, Gen. Secretary. Y.M.C.A. ^soen nuxt dayi. 

Fred. A. Dykeman, Dry Goods, President Y.M.C.A., 59 Charlotte. 

Sheriff A. A. Wilson, Court House, Kintj St. East. 

Judge Armstrotiq, ^20 King St. E.."!. 

J. Hunb^r White, Merchandisr Bniki^r, North Wha 

W. E. Earle, Mcrchandisu Broker iseeii nex* day;. 

John Sealey, Fish Merchant i.seen next dayr. 

D.i|r«t lit tJpillicn of Tf'tMli' .1' M- . (pn.) 

Ch(. t Juituo M( Kvi 

'No .Icmhl (Mir ronmrnfi m hiM)l» vrry iit.litfitrot nt thr null-'fs tu *hnU Prittrssof OMiriFrm lijt 
jlluiliil Our hiHw« *ilh fi'iianl to rtsultK cif 'rrx ciluutum hjvi* nol [(.■.•n ti-jh^nl. I jrit not in f^vor 
uf rt'titjiuii in hhooli, ttut thrrr jrtt i i'rla>ri gfi'jt ldn<ltndrhi thjl wi> inu»l l>'t up In, nihtiiwiio wi< jr.i 
liktiy lo dr. ft. W') »tv ilnftiitij. Thtt Sumliy i< lioijl. o*in(j tii ( ifi urimtarn -s, it no Ih'-iji-f ri'cjsuung 
11(1, Wi' must Ukti •omn ■piTitu titi-pn, o» w«< si'jil hjvf to attniit fjilurc. Am thfi itcpi Rua<)i-iti4<l 
tiy PMi(.-o»*jf (Jutwrfii- f.jiililii, | think thii plan pfnims'-.t l)y Mr Hulrnan is onr (it tHr tiiuycsl >iI><4b tivtir 
rlrm filifil in my hcaniu Thti national lonsfi in *hi(h it la (nnn'ivml l^ omi o( the nrjmlittt t'lmfn I 
tijvi' I vcf hi-an) of Till' [Tfoijoni'il Bojft tlumgh that m at [ifr^mt a 'Ittail wiiulil ruiff in mfluttnrn 
that wnuitt ntjkc our systt'ni niu h mo..' rnnsorunt with our hr.[i.-s fur thti nation My (onrlusion ii that 
if thii «ihi'nii< I an litt tarrn'il out it will lit* on)< of ihii InuUfst thintj^ wi' un rom nv for tin* nation 
■.SiTifig mr wfitirg hard, tht> Chitit Judtn r ailtfn) that, if hr h.i^l ordftslrHnl lh.> Mr( tinistariM's h.' A<itil<| 
havi< tii-in glad to l)ring tho court fitimngtatiht'r. 

T. H. Est.ilunoks propriftiif Ri-il Rosi' trj "Intrnst'ly mt.frslf.t. Mf Biilman has brouijht 
into uiriMi'tM shapt' what has \»-vn m many niimla, I tolt:,W'l with mui h int.T"st bi'tausf it was an 
enpfCBsion of what has \m-n often in my owrt inmil. My Inisin-'iH has tirouiiht mt' in toor.h with fir.'st 
cla»» of ImmnrBs men in Onat Britain, IJniti-d States atnl C.inatla. Differencf m sense of the fmo 
olhui of tiwHiness lietwonn Bntnh on the one hand and Amonrans and Canadians on the other hand 

men of similar standintj very slnkmii. t neyer stopped to annlyje reason. Ri-ali;(i tonight that it is 
a matter of traming- Large numtier of those mon in Oreal Brit.iin trained m srhools lihe Rughy. 
HjfIl) ■ '■[. \ irre emiit„-r. :t put on manliness, fit»re jiml chara. It. Theie is a dfiBperato and 
darrie'oLis t ji k in our srh^ls a lack that is very dangeruus to t':. (ulure of thi- lounlry I Larnut 
think liut ttiat Mr, Bultnan's idea should he carried out. What will comii of it, wo can wait diiii see. 
Meanlimr, us help tn make d a surtess. Conservation ConimiSBion already a model furnishes a 
model. The two miylit tie assoiiated." I saw Mr, Estalirooks aiiain reit day. He then 
r»|)fessi'd the opinion that the program should t)e rnjiked out m i onsidi'rat)li' detail hefortr the con- 
ference IS called 

Mr. Wetmote wholesale (jro<Mr and president Boan) of Trade : "Have listened with great in- 
ter(;st. It Opens Up liefure us a (treat oppoftuiiily for cii-operat'on in odui^ation lor a iirrat ideal. 
Have always felt that if our education was short in jnything it was m the practical application of the 
highest tif« principles. I am interesti^d in the (haracter side of eduiation and in tochnical education. 
Idoa of putting plan l)ofore pcjple of Canada seems to mn to hn at)ly thought out. The thintj should 
h- done. I woultJ leel slrongly thai we should lend our hest aid to assist in Mr. Bulman's scheme as 
intirpreteil by Professor Osborne," 

Mr. Emerson 'chairman School Board >: "Very piiiaaod that I broko another engagement to come. 
Listened with closest interest. Long before I became associated with etiucation I thought at)out import- 
ant liearing of education on morals. Our teachers do their liost, ttut. under present conditions, they 
go only a limited distance. I am very much in accord. Would tie Rxcellent it can ho carried out. 
I sF'e ro rr^ason why it cannot he. If it succeeds it will open new era. By all means hold conference. 
It iniijiii ill! very inllutmlial on lutuiu geiii:ialiuri." 

Df. Frink (Canadian Club. Ex-mayorj: "Have listened with great interest." 

Dr. Frink here described his upbringing in what I imagine was a strict Presbyterian home, 

[umishril. Homi; lifi^ 
,|pscrihrd Rt..-.t nuts I 
t'catcd almost jocularl 

: miirli ((irtrspotiilirui tn nowa^lays. CniiH' is insuffh itintly 
iki riid. Then' IS A (\u\i{ Iji k of mnrjl niination," H.Tir hr 
;t. Jdhn whifi' In- was riviynr; rrad Rtol Art; airrsts; i ulpriis 
■1(1 itismis^iMl. "Tins siji'lls 'lisintf<)ralii;n." 

Rrti^rnni; lo my [iirlurt' of Japan anil GiTm, 
if rnistaki'niy. i.r s.iid: 'In Canada wf an- hitri.h 
We arii sitTiply IkhhimI against h(ii»' ri> future, Ca^ 
HO .'vrfvwhrn- and li-am what witl tfnd Itcst tu p- 



■ thai. Oi 


thn ;.n 

I (inlishfr.' 

Shi'filf Wilson "Pfopiisilioii a ln(| i 
uliyion. Prott'Stant ilcnDniinalions in N 

I lannot iiwr a Uii\ opinio" on it. Scl'ouls arr faitiiiij 
BrLjnswuk hav'! tfiid to find a rnmrdy. AflF'itipts havn 
sn tar failiMl. I think idea a good onr. May . i.' way to soIvp ptohlrm. Our plan ciTtamly fadnj. 
11 may Uc wisi- to lirmg somronr^ 'roni thr outsidn to arivisc with us." 

Pnmipal MyU-s high srhnol : "Murli is l>fin(i ''or,' m thu m honis as at present constituti'd. 
The almosphrre of tuf scttocts is all right, P.r ethical ti';:'hin>j in scIkhjIs, not nmi.h impressed liy it." 
Mr. Myl.-s had come in late ami hail not t;ot whole setting of project,. "Lircat trouble today, love of 
pleasur.^ Everyl)oily is after a gooil time. Most of our I'oys yo to putute-shows to get it. The yreat 
uitluence that t'lust shape hoys is e<amp!o. Improvement sliould cotJie from al>ove, If this stheme is lo 
work it must he brought to |)lay on the iitiiversilies where our teaelieis ..m framed. One difficuUy 
Inday, hoys under ronlrol of (jirl learhcrs. This tlue lo paismiony of t.n-payers. Boy loses self-respect 
if dealt with rcnstantly hy women teachers." Re idea uf (.igani/ation suii']>'Sted "If Stub a plan could 
produce undy of national uleal, it would he v.ilual.le. Strength of national idea in Umtril States tkie to 
putilic schools," 

Rev. Mf. McKeigan St, David's Pn 
I am not sanguine about diiei 1 ethical inst 
children to \'-- intellectually honest. Reli(|ii 

liytetian Ciiun li : ■■Q.light'.d with what I have hi'ard. 

K lion, flur i^i hi)oIs afe doing no small wofk m teaching our 

js education has l)eer a failure. Reason it has bei.'n 

St'Ctarian, and sectarianism is a shai'.e in Canada. 1 believ 
intellectual honesty, do their work, (raving relnjion to hnnii' a 
longer exalted as they sHouM be. I baptize a .hild in a honi 
in liack yard to come in. Press teaches our yuung pefj|>h 

;chonls bhnuld limit themselves to 
111 church. Sanctities of the home no 
■, Father will not leave currying his horse 
' that crookedness does not matter mudi. 
The weakness of the home and callousness about national morality these are. sores. The other idea 
that of this permanent orfianzation. is a ijreat one. It wnulil represent a co-ordination anj consolidation 
of effort." 

His Worship Mayor Hayes: "Discussion very valualile. Most of our social trouliles do not como 
from day and Sunday school scholars. It is the truants and idlers that give most of the troutile. 
Rather like idea put forth l)y Professor O. We have ,n>t to have ideality in our national life. Sutiject 
matter of instruction very important. I thmk Ih.^ old texts were superior to present, I think idea an 
ciKcellfint one." 

At do 

rliscussion. Principal Myles named secretary (or St, John group. 

Mr. Er>tabrooks raised iiuestmi 
I rovince in antic ijiation of ai tion whi 
< sl>orne to recjucM His Honour Guvi 
1 .overnor Wood. 

about creating provision for communiiation between groups m the 
n I all for conference should coiner Re.solved to ask Professor 
rnof Wood lo act as ruHying head for province I am writing to 

Al lomlu- ..n of .in .niilrt'SS ilolivtinid by 'i\f- to S(. .John Car li.m Cluli itf cours.^ not on tliis 
sulijt'Lt , thr [ircsulrnl ot tht: Board of Traiit; voluiitfcri'il to aicornj .jny mf to sm' some {jriillrni.Ti 
who had not t)i:t^n prdstmt. Thtiso tin>n should be includiul in any matcnjl sirnt forward to Si. John. 
Mr. Wetriiord gavo me tho whole afternoon ; and the intnrvifws I hixi werr entirely entouraflinti. 

G. E. Barhour ^wholnsatf (jfoei-r, North Whart 
is a lase of rt^ligion in schools. Religion thrrt 
heouse it is aiming to get national results. I 
Keenly intorested." 

-Thf'e IS a danger. People will think this 
I rag to a liull. This plan is a t.ii) order, 
■very s(Hrme that n'jkes for unity and largeness. 

John Sf'aley ifish niercharti: "Ethics that tlu^ thing. I like this because it reminds mo of 
Arnold of Rugby." 

Rev, David Hutchinson iBaiitist "I are your point to tearh Uw relijjion without dogma. I 
believe it is very good, Ethirs of Jesus, no one ran object to. Opposition met to other schemes 
ought not to bo offereii to this. The ethics of Jesus coincidfi with ticst impulses and with deepest 
experience of humanity. We cannot get Bible into schools. In other words, we have to make an at- 
tempt of a different kind." 

Frank Smith iserrelary, Y.M.C.A.; "A tremendous ideal to strive for. I see no insuperable 

W. Frank Hathaway iwholcsalo grocer, retired): "It is business n'orals ycu are after. 
Sympathetic with idea." 

H, A, Powell i International Waterways Commissioni: "The great opportunity will lie in trans- 
formation of leadh'rs. All ought to he able to mnet there. Would be glad to go on a committe(^ 
whose object would be to make readers the best ttiat it is possible to make their," 

silv, id fni,ma. and shall [Kiy full 

' uf MrtlK. 


, Univfrsity 

at Wilfvillc. Hf! usi-l om; 
(il)ti(i'] i)f a iialiunal ethical 



W. F. Osborn.i 

S.Mt i.t Aaiilia UiKvirsitv. 

.Shall visit ri.'xt Kiri'i's n)liH].'. VJvvinor. 
H,(Wf alrr.Tly sivf P' ■ -lirl ^.1, K.ii;ir, i.f Dalhtpiisi.' Umv 
attention t,> this mslitution at H.ili'a.. 

■Hnpr to Visit Mt. Allivufi Uc v-r;.ily. Sai kvillr, N B.. whi. h 
Wiui'l's p'TmarM-nt tiOiiH- thl■M^ 

liitru.luH>il to Prrsu:-'! Cutt.'n, ot Acailia, Wuifvili-, tiy Irttfr fiom ClKincillor J( 
<;f N.B. 

Fountl Pti'sidfnt Cuttcn atmut to Ivavn at 6 a.m. for N.Y. R.h.'ivi.I m.- lorilially at 10 ().m. 
CotivrTsat'on, aM'T hnnf I'uplanation, lar.p ly Ititiitrd to modus Ot)i't. 
pfirasi-, h(.wi'W''r. whii h rtiav w II provr useful: "Ytiur olijcct is tin 

H.' pkKtMJ me m hands uf LJi. A-> hihaM, Prmn|Ml, Collt'f|la!e Aulilemy of UniverRity. 

Dt. ArihibaUl made list a'ld '-t.ndiii invitaln.'i^s tu a^i held m Town Hall, 

Dr. Arihiiiatd ai tiul as ihjirieari d meeting. 

Prt3fess()r A. B, Balcom. Re-iistrar, Aca-lij Univetsily, ami Pnifessrir of Sorioloity, will ai:t as 
S'irretary here. Simple address. Wotfvi!!", N.S,, will rea.ih all here. 

Dr. Tutts Ptijfijssor of History and Pi>l. Econoniv : "Quebtion fiir;'lameF>ta). All interested in 
wiltar'i of rountry should tie int'^iestTnl. Conferenre should produce details, Bigii^sl thing ever started 
in Canada." 

Dr. I. B. (lakes .former Sih.iol luipeetor; Chn f (jensjs Com. fur N.6 . I'Wl ; Governor of 
University: Think ijetieral id'jj i)ood. Principies of rel^ijion already part of eur regulations. Wu havu 
the topics su'iyested in our sy.'itni.!, ted fj ' has tjei-n or part of leathers." 1 call attention to fart 
strongly, that is. with emphasis, that when a not" like this is struck it tomes ■ n irntiative of con- 
trihuturs. I systeniatu ally avoid a'l Linlavjrabli; refereme tu si.iool systems. W.F.O, "Text liooks 
m^ich dedined. Canadian schuols. as a rule, (ad in inruleatmg mariners, arc part of character." 
(Meetiiii) rv,e m street next muriiini], Dr, Oakes said: 'Well, you are on a liiij mission." 

Mr. Chamhers merchant : -Reh^iinn should start rn homes. Shuuld |jt) attended tu there and 
then we won't have to start new ideas." 

Mayor Hale imeahant : "Not satisfied with results in schools, Sctiool t»ooks have lost their 
drain. We |iay too httle fuf text tiooks. This element should he emphasized in tiorm.ll schools." 

f-Iev. R. F. Di>un ■ Anglican . '■Listened with delight. Have thought alonij these lines a hundred 
times. The hamshment oi reliijion is due to internecim' disputes. Convention idea magnificent. Tho 
hest men in the country are coricc-">d deeply about character of our citizenship. Religion is, of course, 
more than morals. It gives the sufiernatural ele.ment. But tiotter half a loaf than no bread. Hope and 
pray this idea may succecl. Simply delighted that this idea comes to us from supposedly materialistic 
West." • Moved vote of thanks at end.i 

Dr. Chute (Professor Old Testament Exe(jesiSi; "See remarkahle possihihties of good rn this 
proposal. I believe hand of God in it. Impossible to hold such a con' neo in these stimulating times 
without iireat good to Canada. Tht; spirit ol Jesus that is what we want. I hope idea will l)e 
followed up." 


'Ilir mjM h. 

It Minsjit.iliuti "iijsl In- (l)(,M(i viy wrvl/, Yrj 

1 litr tr,.- pi 

.■ Jut ,irr ...:..M. ■■il .iinl (|litr(li.H| ari> M.tiply 1), 

II-. ttu- .illi.r." 

1 iinnl.M (ii.t that th.' si>irit cf this si 'i. ■■],.> i 

1(1 (Ml'U.'S of Si 

.Lo'ss. 'S. ii,T,i.- IS a i|.ioil r»h>." 

M. ttio<;ist mil 

iisti'f it.vitii!, tiiit wih' ill, Cill.'fl (,ti him 

aliiiy this Bvn 

nl ftif iK.uli.itiii il\Hjil.T vi n..tnj)i in ptai tu,dl 


iti BiiM.ifi E.iM Enit Ml-.i.fiK Thr si hoot tlirr.> 

.' Wliy shoiili 

1 tiur nlijl t!ot tif Id mal-c CLinaiiMii si hoots 

1U\' linal .01 

TUtiunity fttiLilit tuvr to ili'vrlop upjiily (or 

Dr. Cjliuon Bursal ■ ) Uinvitsit-, 
liupr to ri'oiild iliildi.'M 111 I'.is. In ai ti 

|Vi)[il.> that sii 1, Th-' 1 ".■ t(!ii,>) 111, 

lo I. I our [., ii;i!,' thr Ir.jr ■ taiiiiar,):, 

Hiv. Ci, W. r.'.tlh'i, f'>I.Tiji;. 
latt-r, Fa\,()iahlf. "lilra r.iNint lit i 
ilinsliaii ilii.iln.n. Wit.ii-.sril srtns c 
is a cciittr (or iiiakiru) 'Amt'tnan nti?i' 
a ci'titni for il'iviiloping i linstijn ulu-ii: 
wiifkidf] iiira out." 

Prnfossor A. B. Baliiiin fo ad ,;!■ si'ciilaiy l"'f'' . "Suns to hr unatiinnty hcrr lU.A yrdjujsdl 
IS ml rniht hnrs, Piohssor 0:-.1'(iim las ()n,iii us Ci->tifriir;i is shoitli) show way to woik nut 
this iilral. Thf u.nlri.-m' is .; rinsMii. II wmiM |H.i|.al>lv h,>d ti, sorulhnxi still l>iuaiiiT, Wr may 
ilcvfloi) ("jii, this (itivial us into a Inoai) su. Ml si-vur liUKl-ani." 

Pfoffssor H. G. P.'iry 'Prof. Biolniiy : -Sdi'Oir oiak' s (.;i standard of Canadian (.itii(inshi|). 
Our standards havii tn'i-n diiilorattli'. Politician onrc lanic into my s< hool to aililmss scholars in 
Fri>il('ric,t(;n. His niessagi; in lifcit was; "Your rountry, right or wron.j.' After hti li fl. I told my 
puptls tht'y wnro to think nothiruj of tlm sort. If wo urL' (joiru) to hi' a umli^d Canada wr must Ux a 
ty[tt>. Eniphasiir lh(! ethical, Ruhilion would fnahti'ii a goo'J many. Thi- t'thnal is thi' !ini> of hast 
riisistanci'. Conf.Trnco is essimtial. Must In; riiaili* to strikti natnmal imaiiniati.jii. I 'imstiun atiout 
Ihii permanent Board. Quf'Stion whether such a Board could do Ihi? work for us. We must sund out 
our ow ennssarirs to find wliat is litsl. I on< e mi't a ijtoup of .)ap..niT-e in Umt'''l States studymg 
psyiholoijy ot the Ameinan s.iulier. Tl;ere wete, tha-y E.nd, others m .iiHen'it (otiiit'ies sanm 
thing. Results weie to he .un;|.|liil tor Japan lliieral idea is exi ellint." 

Rev. N. Harkness. Baptist; ■Wnully in sympathy with idea, hl'M magnificent. Ttie point of 
attack IS the child. Right place to catrli child in the school, ftu' (ianadian school is a miiihly meltmg- 
pot. 'Without a vision the people perisli,' and here is the vision, is thero any Oomimon organization 
already in existence that loold take hold of this? Could the Sum.iI inleryice Council? Da'lii'T m lirmying 
in Englishman. Point of vh w j.u different. We uught lo have this iuti.)n-wnle Bi.ard. And I tti;i k 
they ought to be Canadians." 

Piofessor A, Sutherlantl .Engim^iTing Department ■ "Hau! to a<ld anylhiiig. Sihr";e lommands 
my admiralion. Scheme that l>. gins with .hildun likely ti sue erd. They are the li'ipe ol th" r-ition. 
For my own part I never w.^nt to Sunday sthool more than a .uLt|.l>> of months m my liti>. Ei.^t 1 
learned the shorter catednsni m si hool Xolchi'Ster County, N.S. ; a-iu li ,s there yet'" 'tapiung liiy head.i 

C. R. H. Starr ifarmer, r.'; Governor of University: ■Greatly If scripture cannot 
bo onergetiiaily taught, we ci'rtamly must have elliics of Jesus. SirioTely trust project may succood." 

Dr. Archiliald ichairman, principal Acaiha Colli'giate Acadmny, who placeit time giwierously at my 
disrosali: "In perfect harmony with all pnsrtd m Ihinkinu that wo are very fortuiiato tonight. Project 
should bo carried to Catholic people as well. In ArUigonish we have a Catholic University under very 
enlightened men. Best possitile place to submit the idea to ttiat commiiniott. The cases of Getniany 
and Japan have been cited as insta .cos of nationally directed policy, Th.7 were aulocraues. It is ,nly 
more slowly tlial democracies can be alfecte.l; but results will tit^ all the ijieat.'r," 

Mr. Harkness; "Natior.-wide organization can accomplish won.iers." 

Dr. Archibalil: "I suggest a name- Canadian National Education Association. This project is so 
important that it should stand or -.l-^ own fi:i:l anil riul be mi«t:i! up with anything elSt-." '.This in 
'cforenco to Mr. Harkness' suggestion that some already existent organization should h.e'dle.l 

Mr. Chase, seen by me iie>t day, listened attentively. I hespoke his sympathetic attention to 

movement as it doveloped. Ho promised this, warmly approved direction of movement being in tiands 

of lay citizens. 




W. F. OstDfmi 

W -Isor, rJ.S., si'jt of Kirni's Colli i|.\ Anulu jn. 

PM'Sulrnt, Df. Boyl.'. 

EKpiamud project fully to Dr. Boyli'. He si owfij corniid'ti! sytnnathv "Idea of ilrawifuj Carad ans 
togntfii^r in oilucation. good. What Mt! lack is natimal lonsciousnrss. Wi> urn yruMino toward it; all 
thn mom nfti't) to shapi" its i harai ti;r. Ittca of (on'cn'rico is a gn-at oiu\ I drplon^ division in (>dui:a- 
tiun fsp-'Mally IK Manlitn.' Pruviiurs. Th.i Pfniunml Buanl .h a nuttrr for di-tialr. Infusing h.ghfst 
t'tfiirs into iiiitiotial lif'' the rjrrat thing." 

1 askfd hill 

"Ari! you more trnprossod with the pnssiliilitns of th<> idi'J than with diftu ultit's 

"Y-'s, ConftTciKc lan lio no harm: likfly to do mind yood. Shall tn' ylad to do all t can to 
partiiipati' in making sucd'ss." 

Df- Boylr aski'd me to adoiiipany liim to closing Mcrnses of Edf|tihill Girls' Si.'^ool. Thrrn His 
Grarn tlni Arthliishop of Nova Siotia aski'il nw. to spuak Ijntifly. At thi' closu of tlii' nuti^ting, Dr. Boyle, 
as pri'sidt'fit of tin; Canadian Cluli, askrd mi! to r.^turn to Windsor to aildrt^ss that onjHnijatinn. Hi! 
sa (1 III' would iiivitit li^adiny citizens to a suppur at which I could i^xpouml thii idea of thi- Winnipt>g 

Frday, Jum; 22n(). I n-tufiiiid to Windsor. Di. Boyln had invitrd the following g-Ttii-mfn, who 
wcrr ptt:S(?nt: 

Mayor Roach 

J, W, BlantharJ, District Inspector Insuranctt 

Dr. J. W. Rfid, M.P.P. 

Dr. O. B. Krddy, Medical 

H. C, Burchell, experimental farmer. Mr. Burchell could not spoak. owing to lark of tiftiO, 
hut said aftprward- "Heart burned within me while you spoke," 

Rev. H. A. Harley, Anglican lother ministers invited not there. Meeting in Methodist church 
that night.) 

Profi'ssor Vroom, King's College, 
Professor Forsythe, King's College 
Professor McCarthy, King's Collcoe 
W. M. Christie, K.C. 
Dr. J. B. Black, M.P., Medical 
A, F, Clark, Colonial Fertilizer Co. 
W. J. Hunt, Banker 
J. Russell, Banker 


■ri luv (|iit II"' ^ 

jt (tif'tiriy, liiit r«tirrss' 1 

E. H. Arm!st.,.,i, KJni.mtli Ji fim tin- r.v.r , S(iiihi*fiit. 

PtrMF;.-(i| Biiylt' «(io (.iSiilMl 

Or. E, E, BiSM'tl. 

Mr. JiKlit, H.-.iil Mjster, O'lHidtt' Ai.ul.'my. 

Hiv. j.uri VartrH 

L. H. Mj.till 

Thf itinru'r lir^.m ;il 6 k). I simkr 7..') I<» 745. R'» onlv liU'i^ 
wr h; ' III 1)0 til inilitK lucitKig iit C.inadijn Cliili. Ri'sult *as I hild tn h-.r 
to iliairriun, Mri' inji wjs unsatis!;i( toty m tt^r trrsi- Ihat loi^tnliutKins rm 
liul trrtipcr (if iiiritinii wds wt'nlly lOrttial. ('r-i' iml iv(ira|jlr ()('iim,n Vk.iS r>| tulciw, (icncrjl an'iovjl tiot at ail (lilfrn nt trurti t'lal stiufnl jt ni. 

11 (ir twc'ity inmuttis till 

■ssiirily liait to tn- sliott, 
r.^sMl, v,hnU il.jy Iv 
tif()s i.r.viuubly fr(.()ftc(l on. 

Mr Juilil .hrafl rtustfr, Kii.'j'a Collrijn S(.ln,ol'; "Th.t mhools are ttnt tiatural startitiy pciint. Is 
it jiOBStlili' (of a natiopi lo stiapi' ilsi'lf lonsiiuusly? Ctifiamly , wt> shoulil havii LonfiTrru.!', What it 
wiHild am>rti[jlish, I canriiit lori ( a-^t. Ati ca" iuad a nation tunsLiuusly. It run^ams tu tm srun 
Wrhi'thrr a iiropir lan ilo so ilsi'H." 

An hili'aion Vlarlcll 
}i\U whili' must t>« stri'S 
II nu'.'t on ( iitiirnon ijrni 

■'Confrfi'tui' fH'C'ssary |)"'li"'"''i''y s|i [i. Viftu''3 am) putnotn: lovn (or things 
il tn Canada. ltr.i o( >(>'l! :iil tuiji'thiT mitn of all i lass>'S, ailimratil'v Ttify 

Dr. Btatk, MP.: "OliliT I ijiow nuint r.-spri t 1 havr for Jrsus. No usi' for the tra[i|>tt,gs of thii 
(.tiuri his. I htilicvi! this ntna prcst'tittul tonight onti of tht^ riolilrst that rati Ik; platcil lirforn thr nation. 
No church in Canada would actt'pt mo for a mcmlit^r proliahly, |0r would I tht( rlouma of any ihur. h. 
Cn't outsiitr tho thur(.hi:s; Itii- ihuritirs ant too narrow," 

The Mayor: '■('an thi- s( hfrnr hi' workivl out';' If so, (lo forward wilh it; it will l>n [irodLK-tivii 
of ni'jth good. Wn all fcfl tlir nn d of smh ti'achimj as that pro[iosi'd in Mr, Bulman's schcmi). 
If hiuh f'ttiical idras irxuUat<'d m thildrrn, ritiii'nshiii must improve. Immigration makos this kind of 
progfam nr(.cssary. I should like to si-e this rnnfiiri-ncc tmld." 

W. M, Chnslii', K.C.: 'WinnitH'y proiil.' havt; nijht i^nd. Bfijm with tho s<;hooia and you will 
suni'i'd. Old fellows atr hard to afffd; not sd with ttio ttiildri'n. Wo must not float alony any longor 
liki; a log on a strtiam." 

The Chairman: 
nurs of approval. 

"Can wr say to Piofrssor Oshorni! that wo think tht; Winnipeg scheme good?" 

hoso judgment is 

All not having been able to speak, I asked: "Now is there anyone hi 
unfavorat)le? I want unfavorable judgments if there are such." 

Mr. L. H. Marlell then spoke hrti'fly, l)ut emphatically, in disapproval. 
The scheme will mean repetition of strife. Proper place for ethical teaching 

At thti cioso of Canadian Ciub aritiri::;^, Mr. Martuir apuhu Luniiaily .u 
was made to tho primary matter of my visit. 

President Boyle, King's Collegia, will bo tho natural ono to communi[:at(; with at Windsor, but 
Mayor Roach should bo associated with him in this respect. 


'Let well enough alone, 
the fiome." 

I.-, i;ut :':0 fufthei fcfetufice 


hltlt^ aftfrtiijth of th.i WiMitsur 

H. C, Bun dell, uf thai town, calltMl on r 
(■nijinrtT, Hii was long in th>; iimploy til 

■ Bntish 
chuif cing niiflr ami Dtiputy MhhsIit of Puliin. Wufks lu rii'w(uurirl 
deijrt'n over our sthemts. 

at hnlt'l m Halifa« this riiurnini(. M- Bu" Hrll is a 

,1^ .■n.,...Tf in Homlu-as. Was 
^. ■, .nthiisiasln •' the last 

Mr. BurchtiM talked for an hour with mc. 
should lid toncttivnti as tho spiritual arii tit'-; 
othical uridrgit^s of our pooplf! must U ct. rv. . 
tfiousanils of solifiurs. Spflcial nptid i' s' i'. ; 

tt cinphdsizcil tho point I fiaiJ madn tliat t'na si.home 
' of reconstruLtion-after-tfii'-war projtrts Hi! sanl 
'. *.■ has tausoiJ unsi'ttlitig iiffitct on iiumlriuts of 
, Lit.ial rntirgios must Ik' lonscrvrd anil ilBveloptni 

sido tiy shIo with matonal; othrrwjsc wo shall inevitably do what Germany has done, that is, 
inaugurate an i^poth of puroly material (■fftciDm.y, That will tif; tantanuiunt to Ifaviof] out precisoly 
what, left out, has meant thi! unitoing of Germany. 



W. F, OslKunr 

Prt'liminary morting witti His Grace Arctihishop Worrell Amilnar . Mr. Justii r Russell 
■M.-tho.list'. Professor H. L. Stuwurt Prrstiytcnan ■. 

E»|ilaint.>d projert and Ihcy agreed to forwanl separate lists o( [iroiiosi'il nariics (or nie»'tnig, 

Tli-'se three lists haviry arrived, I laid [iKijei I tiefore His Honour Lieutetjt;t-Govi'rnor Grant, 
to whom I was introduicd hy Sir James Aikins, Found Governor tirant whuhy tordial. Consented to 
issue rail, and volunteered use of Government House for meeting. 

His Honour then accompanied me to offte of Hector Mclnnes. K.O.. who, with the Governor, 
spent threi^-(]uarters of an hour going over the three lists antl supplementing tliem. The list was made 
mur" extensive than heretofore, or than in Winnipeg itsell, al)out seventy-five invitations hemg issued. 

Mr. Mclnnes, on the Governor's sugge; 

, volunteered the 

VKi.'s of ttiree stenographers to 

This page I l>egi i to \ 
now my general impression. 

(enty-tour hours has el.ipsed and I i 

I append full list of those inviteil. (.>n the left-hand side is an asterisk opposite the names of 
those who were present. To these should lie added the names of those t. ■•'it sulisequently, S(rme 
were unavoidably at)sent. I thtnk of Mr. Melnnes, raited tO Sydney; of Mr, MiGiUivray. away; 
of Dean MrRae, away to Rotary -Conventitm in States. The Catholie Archhishop was invited. It 
will he seen that there wore thtrty-eight present. Meeting held in Ball Room of Government House, 
His Honour prcsidmg, Archbishop Worrell on platform, His Grace moved vote of thanks and 
of co-operation. 

I next append digest of views expressed. To^-k notes on spot, and try thfi experiment tills time 
of transmitting the sheets on which I wrote. This should lonvey impressiun of actual character of 

Arihtiishop Worrell. 'Clear idea (unveyed. Have taken strong stand in improvement that might 
he made regarding religious instru(tion in schools. This si heme, i( it does not grasp all that I should 
want, marks sut)stantial step, Ethiis may leail us to living power of Jesus. If we can brmg large 
numtier of reputable citizens together, wo shall have made great advance. Let us take sermon on the 
mount out of region of poetry and demonstrate that it can be lived out pra(tically. How are we going to 
get the necessary force tiehind idea? Only way we can find out is to get laymen behind scheme, Mr, 
R(Ta;h'? Sihtimc nl^ltgn) to put oH rarrying nut. This is to have religion taught, hut that Depart- 
ments should examine on religious sultiects, to 1)0 studied elsewhere than in school. Agreed here to 
postpone until seen whether suiieeiled in Ontario, or not, Ontario GoviTnnwint reported to he about to 
apply. We desire a system of christian ethics. Would tie glait to assist." 


Justin' Russell: "This very roprosfjntative merting. Always had a ft^eling that the elevation of 
morality and spirituality depends more upon personality of teacher than any code or compendium of 
morals. Indirect influence of onv character upon another is enormous. What we need most is the 
highest kind of teachers available. Of course, have to take the best that offers, and small rewards lead 
me to think character of teachers high. Such could do better, the better the quality of the subiect 
matter of instruction. Sir Oliver Lodge's book on religion. Prepared manual of what was cardinal in 
christian religion. Common divisor of all the great religions, common element in all the great religions. 
J. S. Mill said il was enough to inspire him to know that a man tike Socrates lived and died. If you 
can get the ethics that emanated from Jesus into our schools, we shall have done a great thing. So I 
have the largest sympathy for the project," 

Dr. Clark (successor to Dr. McMillan in St. Matthews' Presbyterian j ; "I would only re-echo 
what has been said. I am in complete agreement with what has been said. Delightn) with enthusiasm 
with which idea has been advanced. Party spirit in politics and in rt^ligion regrettable. We are going to 
have to deplore unless wo can introduce into schools the spirit of Jesus. Cannot see how any patriotic 
Canadian should fail to support idea. Delighted to do anything toward that worthy and noble goal." 

Professor Stewart: "I am rot familiar with school system in detail. Am in utmost sympathy 
with general project, Some effort made in England by Moral Education League -carries on propaganda. 
Sadler associated with this. That system has some features that would not do in this country. Most 
people in this country would regard moral education as a preliminary to something more. One section 
of that movement regards moral education as a buffer. This would not do here. We should be on our 
guard in adopting any feature of the work of the Moral Education League without careful examination. 
One wing inclined to regard moral education as a buffer against anything more. The other regards it as 
an instalment. I do not know to which wing Sadler belongs." 

Mr. Mytes (National Dmi) Company : "'Agree with speaker. Might be salvation of Canada. 
Must go back to teachings of Jesus to get sound guidance for citizenship. We have got to get back to 
Jesus' fundamental teachings, stripping off things that have been added since. Nothing so winsome, so 
attractive as love, sacrifice, service, as illustrated by life of Christ. Will work out its own morality — 
true life. This will elevate character of citizenship of Canada. Anything that I can do, I shall be 

Or. Allison i former prtisident Mount Ailison, former Supermtenitent of Schools;: "Have greatly 
appreciated address. Fourteen years Superintendent of Education. Was not one month in that time 
that this question did not occupy my attention. Was often askod to recommend methods to Government. 
I have to confess, without any wish to throw cold water on religious instruction, my impression is that 
it is necessary to proceed "ery cautiously. Such close connection between ethics and religion that the 
two border on each other very closely. Cannot expect ordinary teachers to make this distinction between 
the two. Practical situation is outcome of what has been found necessary. Cannot do much better than 
we are doing. Those who suspect that children are being brought up as Pagans are badly mistaken. 
No more God-fearing people in the world than in Nova Scotia, still 1 am all at one with Professor 
Osborne in aim. Insofar as they are not being taught, they should be taught. Very little to bo gained 
by these attempts." 

Dr, Forrest: "Sympathize Largely with ideas of Dr. Allison. Have taught at every point. Have 
tried every system of books put out in the Old Country, Scotch first, then Irish, then American. 
Christian morality is taught in our schools. No one should object to that. Ethics and religion close. 


It is not Ml nthics that our schools are rieficicnt. Very few tiiiih. Iiavr I known m Mxly yfurs wba 
haw, i;vpr had to be removed for mural ri'asoi^s. Wi> arc all aij- ro uiiun cnil tu l)t^ cjiimi. Wt; hava 
local option in what is taught hvtv. in Prrstiytt-nan districts of Nova S<otia a pretty (iLod t)rand of 
Calvinism taught. Enulishnicn of all men last nmn ti) givr us information. Havr Idtli tu hu|)(i for 
from Entjlishmrn." 

Ml. Mackay ■ Superintendent of Educalion , traced histtty to shew he had ' no heen interested 
in ethical education. Seionded vote of thanks. Wrote n.e cordial letter next marring, cmlosing 
impottanl Idorature. 

Governor Grant; "What Professor Oshorne has said has n.ade deep impression upon me. ', too, 
know something about schools. I did not get .■nouiih of thnstiar principles in s< hool. We must havti 
this thing slung at us, forced upon us. Greatly impressed." 

Archbishop Worrell moved resolution expressing 'Tipathy. readiness to ro-operato, willingness to 
appoint a committee to co-operate; Dr. McKay serondeii. Chas. Bell, business man, three years on 
School Board, interested in Su'nday school, supported- "Must acknowledge have great deal of sympathy 
wdh idoa raised. Wu must face ijuostions. We must not say so and so cannot be done. Must face 
future with idea of doing great things." 

Dr. Mackay; "Delighted with freshness of discussion. Have been long interested in subject. 
Our teachers aro young, feminine. They are doing what .s expected of them. The church's bu?;iness is 
to be responsible for spiritual and ethical instruction. Cannot saddle schools with too much." 

I shall not conceal from the committee that them is a well-defined conservative I mean cautious 
- strand of opinion here. This aspect was clearly voiced by Dr. Allison and by Dr. Forrest (retired 
president of Dalhousiei, These doubtless represent a certain l)Ody of opinion here which will have 
to be reckoned on when it Lonie;' to a show of hands, 

Nevertheleis, all the evidence that comes to mc suggests that t carried the judgment of the very 
large majo .> of the meeting, which was said on all hands to be splendidly representative. 

Charles Bell, president Dental Supply Company, called on me at the hotel next morning. 
Expressed himself in warmest terms re project. Anything that he could do, he would do. 

Burchell, of Windsor, present again at this meeting. More enthusiastic than ever. 

Dr. McKay, Superintendent of Education, sent me a letter next day. speaking cordially of 
impression o( meeting, and enclosing Iderature re related attempts. His tone had inclitied -not more 
than that to caution, at meeting. 

Dean LlwydU, of All Saints Cathedral, telephoned me at length last night, twenty-four hours 
after meeting. Asked permission to state his views formally, 'hey are these: 

1. Cordial agreement with general point of view. 

2. Thinks the action of lay and business committee in Winnipeg most gratifyingly significant. 

3. Says we can approve past and yet agree to do much bigger things for future. 


4. Thinks tho principles of thn sormon on tho mount must be rrstatrd (or our limn with spncial 
emphaaiB on civic and political duly and rftsponsibiiity. 

5. Says hf will hold himself roady to assoctatit himsrif activi-iy with proi-ugarida. Could not hav« 
licfin morn gtatifyinQ. 

Refrrence to Dean Llwydd ttrmgs mi! to point ro local committee, which I think wo should 
consider as roughly pstatihstird m theso places. Thai is. the men I name might be considered, atonfl 
with a seiretary. as comprisinfl min who should be spenally communicated with whrn we wart local 

Local Committee Suggested 
Fredericton ; 

Bishop Richardson 
Chancellor Jones 
Professor Styles 
Professor Kierstead 
Major W. J. Osborne 
St. John: 

Mayor Hayes 
Chief Justice McKeown 
Principal Myers 
Mr. Estabrooks 

Mr. Wctmore, Chairman Board of Trade 
H, A. Powell, Waterways Commission 

President Cutten 
Dr. Archibald 
Professor Balcom 
Dr. Oakes 

President Boyte 
Mayor Roach 
H. C. Burcheil 

Lieutenant-Governor Grant 
His Grace Archbishop Worrell. 
Professor H. L. Stewart 
Professor Ebenezer McKay 
Dean Llwydd 
Walter P. Parker 

Charles Bell, Dental Supply Company 

Two parentheses -Yesterday Governor Grant, who has shown mo all kinds of kindness, forwarded 
to me at hotel cordial introduction to Governor of Prince Edward Island. 

Let mo press on committee necessity of concurrent activity in other provinces. Conference should 
not necessarily be made to depend on presence of Dr. Sadler, desirable as that no doubt is. Anomalous 
to bo working Maritime Provinces while other provinces are left unapproached. 

Vitstorday, in addition to inti^rvitiwB with suniti inon Mhii had luinn at mni'ting, I s|>rtit in scrmu 
othiirs who had not lieon alili' to tnj prraunt, 

C. H. Mitchell, of W. ± C. H. Mitch.ill, at docks: "Our (tduiation sliould tm luliundliiod m a.m. 
Ciootl fiioviv" 

Ci. S. Cjniptifll mnnii'rsi'd with work as Dirrrtof of National Sfrvut- , indmiid to question 
dfsirahility of any sclmme not dlrt'ttly rrlatnl to war. When I hatt cjiplamrd (haratter of unttuprise 
and rcaaoo for tho timi- of my visit, and its pnihniinary charaitrr, his attitude was mottifiiid. Would 
hoM himsi:lf op'ri to futuri; con side fa lion, 

W. P. Park«r ipropriotor of fashionable rt>staurant): "Wholly favorablR. Our manhood being 
brokctn. Education must t)u iimphasizcd afresh, Fm^l the nettd. Oxford and Cambridgft omphasis on 
character nticiJed. You are on fight track. Most high-class citizens will fall in line, tiut you will 
oncountur opposition. Many people put money valuo on eviirything. Everybody should t)e enthusiastic. 
Wo neud to bu 'jacktid up' in otfiical tono. Whtiraver I am I shall be plaased and willing to do all I 
can," (Was president of Rotary Club -very active horn -last yoar.i "Wo are jogging along fairly well, 
but that is not good enough. In training a football team not satisfieij with 'good enough.' Just the 
sort of thing I have been intertistod in. Would like to give up my Ide li that sort of ideal." 

H. S. Colwell irnerchant, chairman Sites Committee of School Commissioniirs At first thought he 
was going to take status quo position, but that did not prove to ba the case. "I fear question of re- 
ligion or anything resembling. My children's school takes up Sunday School International Lesson every 
Monday. I do not know that conditions can bo much improved. Nothing but good could come from 

*Most Rev. Archbishop Worrell, 11 Lucknow Street 

•Rev. H. Wm. Ross, Fort Massoy Church iProsbyterian\ 11 Inglis St, 

"Rov. A. S. Rogers, Grafton St. Church iMethodist>, 94 Dresden Row 

D. MacGiltivray. Manager, Canadian Bank of Commerce (absent from city 
•Charles Bell, President, Maritime Dental Supply Company, 40 Brenton St. 
•Dr. F. Woodbury, Dentist, 318 Pleasant St. 

•Dr. H. L. Stewart, Professor, Dalhousie College (Philosophy!, Larch St. 
'A. Stan ey MacKenzio, Phd. Dalhousin College, 14 Mollis St. 
■Dr. A. H, MacKay. Superintendent of Education. 201 Mollis St. 
*Dr. David Allison (Lawi, 288 Tower Road. 
•Lieutenant-Governor Grant, Government Mouse. 

H. M. Bradford, Invt, Broker, Metropolo Building. Mollis St. 
-C. M. Mitchell, of W. dL C. M. Mitchell, 242 Tower Road. 

W. A, Major, Manager, Dun d Co,, 140 South St. 

G. S, Can-.r-b'=!l, Di'«'-tor NattonsI Sorvic?, 135 Low^r Water St. 

M. E. Pyke, Com. Mcht., of Pyko Brothers. 81 Oxford St. 

Hector Mclnnes, K.C., M.P.P., 62 Inglis St. 
'Professor Eben McKay, Dalhousie College (Chemistry), 24 Harvey St. 

Walter P. Parker, Green Lantern Restaurant, Barrington St. 


H M H.itlir, Mjriji|i't, liTiiH' Putilinhiriii Corniuny, .7 Ciiliuru Hitjil 

•P f" M irty. H.Hf.'tarv. Y.M C.A , BarnMdlnn St 

D A. M>Hdi', Drcn Ljm S<hiMil. D.ithciuH<i' Uoivrrmtv 
V- J Palur. Kt;, M^iUdn, Pdtmi 4 Co. ajfrmlrra, 
E. H, Bloi'', Sg|), N.'il.Htn! C.liililr.-n. 4 CjMfrrl St. 
'S. A. Murton, M.A., Pniu t[idl. Cuunly Ataili'itiy; 8rutiRMiik St- 
•J H Trrlfy, Hdlitan County A<a<Jfiny, B'u'iswii k St, 
•Hun tiiu, E, Fjulkm-r, -O South Park Si 
Jotin Cddoiilly, iitjt'mitt, Barfi^utun St. 
Jolin W. Rvyan, CatiaOian tnvcstors Liniiti'd, Mollis St. 
*L. A. Mili'H, Mdi'jgrr, Natiuoal Drug S. Chiinual Conituny, 
■H. S. Colwcll, o( C(iU. It Pros, Ltil., Clolhii'.s, Barnngton St. 
R.'v. E- E. Ddti'y BdiitiM , 1.'97 Brui-swtik St, 

C. W. Aikhufst, Cl.Tk, A. N. WhitD'jn, Fish Mt-nhants. 22 Holl.s St 
W. T. AM.Tt. T. C, All.M A. Co., Statiom^ry. 89 S. Pufk Si. 
'Arltmr S, Barnstiad, Sctniarv, Industdi's ami Inmtiuralion, 414 Tdait Ruail. 
C. J. Burihi'll, of Maitran, Patotv Biir< hrll d Co., BarrttttrrH 
•Rrv, Dr. Clark. M.rnsttr. St. Matth.w's, 3\7 Plrasant St. 
J F. Fiasrr. Davis 4 Frastr, Pork Pai kcrs. Lotknian St. 
Cdiit. H V. Harris. Mnuy Rogers il Harris. Bartislrrs. ftO Fftiwuk St. 
•John M. Kt.'M. City CorilroM.-f , 7 K.'iit St, 

ArihitiaM Ma(M(H.han, Ph.D.. Professor. Dallmus.- Umvrrsity. 72 Vu Itiru Moad. 
Howant Murray. Pruft'ssor. Dalhi-usir Umvrrsity, 15 Spring Uanlrn Road. 
'R, H Murray, Barrister, Murray 4 McKmnotv 
Dr. A. O. Nichols, Physician, 10 S. Park St- 
•E. A, Saurdfrs, Secrrtary, Board of Trad.^ 194 Winrlsor St. 
Prin(.|ial ' H, Srxton, Trthniial Collrgo, Haldax. 
H. R. S ■. Dominion Molassi-S Co, Ltd.. 109-11 Upptr Water St, 
RfV, K iton Wiylf. CharlfS St, MHhodist Church, 550 Rotini St, 
R H. * tlliams, Managir. Rolirrt Simpson 4 Co., Oakland Road. 
•Dr, W. W, Woodl.uty. D.'ntist. 225 Rolnf St. 
•C, H, Wright. Mariagtir, Can, GpnI. EIrt. Co., 55 Coliurg Ruad. 
Wm. H. Diinnis. Marag*^r, Halifan Hrrald. Argyll St, 
Fri'd. Pnarson, of Covort d Pearson, Barristers. City. 
C. C. Blackadar, Editor, Araman R»;rordnr, Granvdle St, 
W, J, Clayton, Clayton A Sons. Clothiers. Jaioli St, 
•A, B. Wiswell, President, Bell A Co., Hardware. 40 Inylis St, 
A. H, Whitman. Manayimj Director, Rotiin. Jones d Whitman. Fi^h Menha-Ms, 
Mr. JuslMc Harris. South Park St. 
Mr, Justice Ritchie, Victoria Road 
Mr, Justico Longli;y. Grtien St. 
•Child Justicd Graham. South Park St. 
I. C. Stewart. Publishing Co,, 270 Tower Road. 
•Judgn Wallace, Larch St. 

'J. Wa>l)-t Allibun, J. P. Mu[[ & Sun, Maoutai.lur<:iS, DailriMJutfi. 
*G. W. T. Irving, Secretary, Educational Office, 194 Robio St. 
Sir Frederick Fraser, School for the Blind. 


J. 8. Kiinny. or M< Inm'i, Mxllmh d Co. Barrnti'fi 

Hon. n. T. Ddnuita, Attornity-Oonnrdl, Pruvirur Buililirifj. 
•Pto(«'»«Of H. B. Jonn, King St., Djftpnoutti 

StUiirt Hunks, Di'puty Attornov-Urncfal, Provitufi Building. 
'Hon, E. H. Armslrong, Commr., Puhlir, Worki jnd Minxi. 
■Dflan Llwyd. All Samti Cjlhtulral, 44 Inylii St, 

S M Brooktii'lil, S. M. Broi.hriiil'l Limiti'd, Contrddorv. 

T. S. RoyiTS, KC . Hi*nry Rinj-rs d Cu., Barrntift, 
•Hn Wonhiy Mayor Mj«tm, City Hull. 

T. W. Murphy. Etq , K.C.. Rmlilt^'i Building. 
•Mr. Justiai Chisholm. 22 Cjrilon St. 

Rtiv, Or. Foley, R.ittof. St. Mary's Cjthtidul. 

Rpv. Arfhtmhop MiCarthy, UruBdm How. 
•Mr. Justirii Russell. 
■R(-v. Dr. PniSKftint Emiintus. Dalhousn-, 22 Tolun St, 

Frcil Pitarson, Propni'tor "Thu Chronn.l«" 

Dr. Edward Blar.kaddrr, 150 S. St, 

"S. A. Morton, Principal, Halifax Academy. 3G Lurknow St. 
*G. K. Butlor, Principal, High School, 48 Dutch Villago Road. 

Graham Cr»iight(in. School Inspector. Provincial Eilucalion Otticn, Hollis St. 

A. M. Bell, Fornmr Chairman Board of Tradti. Form«r Chatrman Btl. Schl. Comr. 

Obml E. Smith, Toa Mi'rchanI . Morsn S. Co. Ltd.), 


In going to Charloltt^towt), cjrnoil ronlul introduction to Governor McDonaM from Governor 
Grant, Nova Scotia. Prostmtistl introiJuction, w<t3 trualott with uvflry court*!sy, but the Lieutonant- 
Govcrnor ilnj not siic his way clear to takf aclivt^ part. 

My minting was rall.'d hy Mr. S. A. MacDona'il, murcliant, prcMdftil of tint R(;tail Merchants 
Association. Tht; meeting was the l)est yrt held. Thu nulcs will show twrnly-live separate names, 
and there were thn.T or four who diil not care to speak whosf names escaped me. That is, there 
were at least thirty (iresent. The temper of the group was simply magnificent. Tht're was not a single 
dissident voice. That of the Hon. Mr. MiKinnon was cautious, tiut not liy any means hostile. The 
meeting was held in the Board of Trade rooms. 

I r 

light suggest as a speiial tomn 
Professor Rohettson 
Rev. Dr. Fullerton 
S. A. McDonald 

. Dr. Fullerton (Priishytcnan' : 

itttie at Charlottetown 

C. H. Black 

Henry Smith 
R<;v. R. G. Fulton 

! feet wt) must go 
IS ample room for 

"Very association with Christianity makes r 
slow untd assured it will not hu tsphemtiral. Our entire citiienst-'p will agrue 
teaching of morals, manners, citiienship. Let us take a leaf ou" f our neighbor's hook. Teach our 
children who made this country and how. Principles of citiienship, well taught in «.ome of our schools,. 
This is a very representative mioting. Teaching of scripture tried some years aq i Ontario. Failed, 
as it must fail. But the schemo proposed this evening seems to me feasible. One great end would 
be possible -unification of readers throughout Canada. If we could get those things into the texts, 
interwoven with history of our nation-makers, I think we should have gone a long way towanl producing 
a high type of citizenship. Feel like moving later in the evenmo our endorsation of this scheme. Wo 
must have spiritual unity in this nation. Provincial co-operation could give us, for example, common 
readers. Do hope the scheme can t)o followed up," 

Professor McCarty (Prince of Wales' Collogii.: "Big question for few moments, but a most 
worthy idea. Idea would no tJouht do a great deal to upbuild nation. Great field for it. Have never 
heard of such a plan before, but am heartily in favor of it. Couldn't do anything better at any rate 
than express our warm approval." 

Professor Reid (Prince of Wales' Collogei; "Sentiments I might have expressed have boon put 
by thf! two preceding speakers. I realize fully that this phase of our citizenship has been neglected. 
We might well put more emphasis on patriotism, that is, intelligent patriotism. Many of our 
children do not know the history uf our province, or understand foundations of our civil life. The 
proposal from Winnipeg offers a solution. Big undertakings of this nature have sometmios been 
dropped, Let us make up our minds that a big task can bo achieved only in a prolonged time. The 
idea is most commendable and shouid he approved by every patriotic Canadian," 

Professor Clark 'Experimental Farm "Have though what we have already done along some- 
what similar lines. Am thinking of Canadian Standanl Effiricnry work. Now have an advisory board 
representing Y.M.C.A. and each church. Four-fold life Wisdom, stature, favor with God, and with man. 
If such work as that could be earned on in connection with -chools, it would be great. We are going 
to embark presently on technical education. It would bo great if we could associate training in 
character with training of hand and eye," 


Mr. Wilfred Taylor tj^wriinr); "Came to liii instfutti'd," 

Mr. Grorgo Inman. K.C. : "Really thmk rommenflalilo as project is. wf art; Utopian if *o 
think all this can bo acconiiilishrd in forty years. We have had our rtiurities, (.,■-■ schools. In our 
books we havt! soledions ''om scripture. Wt; have had the vory bost ethics available. Irt adilition, oui 
boys have had churches ami Sunday schools. Nevertheless, the project is along (he right line. I am 
quite in favor." 

Mr. L- E. Prouse: "I have just come to learn." 

Mr. Stewart (barrister nominated for seat vacated by ProrMier Matheson when elected to Chief 
Justiceship!: "If it can be proporly inaugurated (luestion of time in which ends can be achieved 
unimportant. If idea a good one it is our duty to launch it for our generation, if we can instill 
christian altruism in our schools, wo shall have done the greatest of things." 

Mr. Howard Hilson president, Board of Trade', cordial, but did not wish to spoak. 

Mr. Henry Smith (president, School Board': "Good deal said with which I agree. Our school 
system has certainly made great advances. We insist on character in teachers, and a good deal of care 
has been exercised in choice of teachers. This necessarily influences the children. Higher moral stand- 
ard than forty years ago. Christianity permeates slowly and it is the duty of all to help it along. 
The school is the place." 

Rev. R. G. Fulton .'Methodisti : "I stand pratt'cally for what this movement advocates. Our 
school law here allows reading of scriptures, liut m ^u-iie schools it is not done. I arn facing serious 
conditions every day. Christianity is not present as it should be in business and society. The child 
IS the one that can bo ea.sily influenced. If we can g.^t at the chdtt all through Canada it wouliJ be a 
great achievement. There should be some central organization in education. Uniform teaching for all 
our children would be the thing. Get at the child with a uniform method that will enibfUf all the 

Rev. Canon Simpson 'Anglican i: "Cannot get scriptures might be manageil here and there. 
Idea is to re-edit or issue nt-w readers «hi(h might be adopted all ovei the Dominion. These would be 
prepared hy most eminent men that could be found so as to convey iri;erentialiy, spirit of Jesus. 
'Half a loaf is better than no lin-ad.' 'Nothing venture, nothing han\ Shall t)e glad to assist in 
bringing about conference. We are at parting of ways. If m' want to be better, we have got to be a 
lot better. Let us scan every suggestion. Vory glad to help." 

Mr. Chester McClu 

id not wish to speak. 

Professor S. N. Robertson 'principal. Prince ot Wales' College': "Natural for me to fall in. All 
our discussion revolves at)out Christ's principle of antithesis between matter and spirit. He was careful 
in choice of His leaders. When Constantino accepted Christianity, frame-up took pla-" ■ between matter 
and form. Matter is heathenism; spirit is christian. In 1914 came the dash. Germany was farthest 
off the track; she was most materialistic. Wo are affected by same, though not so much. Matenaiism 
is our giant foe, fur it is everywhere. While we aie professintj ihriHlianity we are not really pia.ticmg th- 
things of the spirit. We are just playing with chtiatianity. Wo are putting over our children to teach the 


tlinKjS ot ttn' Spirit many infrriof (iroiilr. Wo arc givinft to lra< tiers saljnrs that hankers givn l»t(jinner 
This IS the w-otst kiml of tiialiTialisrti ami [lagamsm. Ijiitiation must rrmain jirovinciat. There is 
advatitaiiit in that. Wr lannot revotutiom^r things until thii whole salary (lueslmn is changod. We 
ioljM revolutuTiie Prirue Eii^.tril isl.inl in a geneiaticn if m: woulit ()ut into s( hools |iro|ierly paid 
tcaihers of h'jh grade to train rhildren. Both instincts selfish and unselfish ate l»asal. The selfish 
one can lie siiiothnied. The unselfish one can be fostered. Great Britain is dinging away her money 
l>y the boatloads just to assert that spirit is greater than matter. Great texts and great teachers wo 
must have. Our schools have done wonders under the rirrumslances 17-year-old girls training 
potetitial manhood and womanhood l)ut how much more cculd be done! Great teachers, with text 
S'OOks suih as those suggested, will work a transformation in a generation." 

Principal J, D, Leaman Prince St. Public School: "Can't add much, came in lato. No question 

this movemc^nt is facing right. Dr, Rol)ertson has hit the essential note. We must have tK)th good 
hooks and goiid teachers. We go after the dieaji an<l often yet it. Most helpless sight I ever saw 
IG-year-old gul faiing tug (lass. Movement is highly deserving." 

Rev. N'r Dawson, York president, N.B, and P.E.I, Methodist Conlerence : "Very little that tar 
be added to what has s.,i.:. No one m my positien lould lad to be m sympathy with programme 
presented. K'uih that 'S mat. rial remains in our civiluatton. Must look (or greatly better things. 
We must try men not l)y "Aniens" in meetimis, nor by levereme in ( hurrh meetmgs, tiut by methods 
in business, (-olitics, eli Must try them by the mtasiires they apply to men. Dr. Rottertson has 
certainly voic) d my view. Our hope is with the growing boy anri growing girl. Ciirl is very 
important. If we have any Superior citizen m the future, it will be the woman. We have had 
practically no training in {.ilizenship as su( h. To emphasiie it will mean a trereendous gam in itself. 
Christian citizinship, the unselfishness of it, the sacidne of it, the service of d' If we can g.'t (his 
idea grounded in the thinking of our chililren, a new generation will tie pruduted," 

Rev. Mr. Freen^an Baptist : "This projeit strikes me as the conception of a statesman with 
a far-reaching vision. It will re.e h rot only from one otean to another, but down the ages. We are 
starting r ghl when w star! will, the ihiM, I .im mipresseil with the la. k of patriotic expression in our 
schools fontriisted wdh llie United States. A!so impressed with small amount of stress on ethics. 
Largely turns i.ow on teaMiers. Can't hope fer right tiMi hers urdil bigger salaries. How are we to 
thangeV DiK.iult to g.t (onieption into mmds of people. Almighty dollar bulks tug. May it not be 
that liy starting with the (hild we may put proper germ id.'d in mind of child, so that thfi next genera- 
tion Will have new conception? Must prize a (hdd higher than a coat. Idea of making this Dominion- 
wide is splendid. One danger Confounding of results of ethiial teathing with New Birth. The two 
must be distinguished. We must see to it that this confusion does not occur. If d ran lie carried out 
as conceived, it is great." 

Hon, K'r. Murdoih McKmnon iComm. of Agriculture- "Would like to think a while. No doubt 
riH.-iln. ss .uid value of pinji-d. We (■■it.,,nly have heard some gems tonight. Why should not the 
■hcnh iHiih t:,T work a little harder? There jre enough men in this room to woik a revolution." 


Njrtii' (if fnlkj*iiiit sprakcr missi'il', "Hjvi; listcmil vnth (|rrul mlircst U th to adilri'SS ar.d lo 
iltsi US8IIIH. Ttlis Uys liiiiir tllu roots of ouf nationaf probt''m. Our (irulili'in is vrry jr .dr. Havt! Itinij 
ri'volvt'it in fTiy minil thr poiiHit)ility of somii such [dati. As thosr whri luvr [)r''(r(li'il m.', I say, the 
movctriTit IS facmg in Ihn riflht (liriirtion. As tliurthi'S, we ate fn,t an tifii(ilistiiiiij niui h m ti aihing 
youriii Wi- tuvii only atmut twenty niiinitrs a wrtik. We art' failnuj as (hurdirs IIHTr, If wr <,anriut 
get iiit(» thr sihools the spirit of Ji'Sits, we have littit; to hop>: far." 

Mr. Alftx. Camptitfll ■ Victt-Pnnr,. West Kt-nt School : "Nolhinu tu ad.l. It lias linn m niinrls of 
all aooil men for long that wmothinfl liko this ncrULnt. The tfarhcr must tic the great fai lor. If pliiity 
of i-nergy put into ttus ulra. it will ai.conipliah murh, ami mu( h is nmlril." 

Col. Y. S. Moort> rctiifil liank.;r . ■■Lislfiinl with grual ileal of int'Tcst to Mf. Ostiorne anit to 
ilia< ussion. Thoroughly, ^v.ry llioroughly. in actonl with proposition. Wr liavc inui h I'l learn from 
Roman Catholics. Protestants art! nnjleiiing thf-ir children, t have never hem j teai her. hut I have 
(IrillDil men, some of them are now shooting on frontiers of Frariir. There is a ilearth of mural 
eilucation. Catholics surpass us greatly in those regards. Children are the people that can be afftictcd. 
Preaching shoLnl ho aimed largely at children. What we accomplish must tie through hoys and girls." 

Mr. C. H. Black icroikery itierchanti: "Very mm h impresscit. Professiir Oslionn- has presented 
admirably. All synipathize with movement. It la in right direction. Children our greatest asset. Each 
life high value. Take the care our farmers txtslow on stock. Parsimoriy is poor policy in education. 
This can all tie changed by c^duration itself. Thing may bet itifdcult hut it should lie gone after. The 
kernel of our whole life is spiritual. This move is in the right direction, and I think Irading miTids of all 
provinces, if they get together, can find out the way. One of the Qreatest things that can be started 
for the uplift of rising generation." 

Chairman S. A, McDonald dry cjoods. president Relad Men hjnts Association : ■professor 
Ostiorne has explained plan privately to me. We can all testif;, that plan has tieen splendidly put. 
Wf owcr a di'ep delit to Professor Oshorne. We all trust mc'etincj may result in somelhinq prar In al and 

Rev. Dr. Fullerton: "Move general endorsation of movement. I still feril there" is in tioth bocites 
of our [lopulalion a plastic enough hoily of opinion to secun a set of readers that will tte satisfactory 
Much depends on the way the conference is managed- We niust not, as ihiistian citizens, launch a 
thing that fades away." 

General endorsation and hcspe that con erenre will he successful. 

Rev Mr. Fulton: "Second heartily. I. too. attended Undv Convention and aqres with Dr. 
Fullerton that there is a ttroadnciss in Catholic church that would enable us to get readers that would 

comprise the essentials of Christianity." 

Heartily put and heartily earned. 

With Prc[UMt(iry KuW l-y W. f. Oslmrnf 

Mtativ.' jnri 

Having yorii! on from N-'w HljSf|ow to Chaflotti'tuwn. ,iftrr hivitii) jrrjnijnl • 
lot muht of l?iy return. I mul'l not .jivi' (it-rsonji atli'iitiiiri t.) lliis plju', 

Thi- mn' lirl,| m VMy CuuiimI Chamhrr w..s sirall l.ul Hiiisisti'il f.f rrprn 
thoLightful (lien. 

I was not nearly a? ^^^ll sat.sfird with riiy own []"':^ir.l.;|(r'n as tin iirrc-iliny -vijimfi at 
ChaHotti'ttmn, l)iit th.' ilisni'siDri was ntfi'mrly (jooil, Thr tnnc ol ttu' nicrtinci iT''i.iovfil btiMili y 
arrj was cKii'llfnt at the < lusr. On ttic wholt^ I (ci-l thai the nu( Icus of itUi'rcst has lircn ostalilishix] 

■St that I rriakr ot Hon. Mt. 
rraMy vi'ty thf)U()httil anil ki 

'iTi'arks hrr 
!■ that we n 

. tj It^avr liitii ayaidfit, liiit h;a 
' look for I'ti ii[i)jositn)n from 

Two mnn whom we shoul't common icatii with he 
and Coai Company who pn>siilfil ; and H, K, Fitzpatnck, KC 

A. McUdlt, S(^crf!tary. Nova Srotia Stcol 

Hon. R. A MaiGri:gnr; "I siKJki* in ariord with this nivd last Sunday iContrdt-ratuin , Cai;r' 
SDt> that you would gi't far with a runffvuriciv Our Mluwlmnal system is provini lal and must rcni.i'r 
80, Provinces very sensitive This illuslratnd by reluctance of Dominion Gowr.TFimrnt to nmlurk <■,.■ 
terhnual rducation. No doulit ijood to aijitate [luliln niiml. I.jt cannot set: wheie ronfLToncu wuutil 
get. Almost all the provinces dirert instrui lioo in essentials of ethics." 

H. D. Sutherland ■ hardware merchant : 
referred to, liut still [hero is great need. Takii 
good one. if only you can get somewheri!." 

Cannot add anythmg. Realize difficulty Mr. Mai;Gn 
the inatter of patriotism. I think the ,dea ii a very 

Ri^v. Mr. Cotton lAnglican "National iifea cannot he kept too much hefi)ri- our peopin; and 
perhaps a conference could ilo great work There is uruloulitedly the provincial dilficulty." 

Dr. E. Kennnly medical. Came in latuj; "The suhjiit 'S a most important one. Idea of 
conferencil of leading mm to consider ethical weakn'SR of country strikes me as admiratile. In the 
fust place, it would signalue the fact that there is such a weakness. I tlunk that iriuch hetter tjooks 
could tie compi'ed I concur heartily m idea. With Mr. McCoN's reference to tommerctalism of press, 
as reflection ot 'mper of the cnuntry, I agne, I most Pl-oriijly eniJorso the idea of gettmo together 

I conferefrc. 

;he t 

Hi that we may havt 

ited attion." 

Mr. McColl secretary. Nova Scotia S;..'l & Coal Co, called the menting and was in the chair): 
"I think wi^ are av,av t)ehind ethically. The fact is. in matters of puhlic mnraldy, busmuss lifo, we are 
n had shape. Our press is venal. Oui party papers are perfectly urscrupulous. They are influencing 
the pcopif) Ifcrntily. The pot.liMdns are not m if fur hv minutes with the extreme party press. Can 
we get at this sort of thing? Not sure that wo can even in school. The family is the place. We 
can't stem the tide if Ihn strcessful man is the one that the children sne held up as the model. 
Bringing some hundreds of brainy men together can do notliing but gooct. Let us have conference, 
but I see very little in idea of tiiingir-t out an Englishman." 


N'f. H. K. ht/tMlnik K C , ■■! iln nut know Hut I MFi Mjy jrtyttiirii|, I Ir.-I thjt lhi> il an 
Mh'j ru:| til 111- |)ut liu'itly atc'i' r^jfl'inu mjv lomr of i(, lu*t loriifthifiij m.iy. II this sutCHrila i| hjia 
ti) .;;! Ailli Ijdiui"! work cf out i iviliiulicn. Eu^ily nottiir.,j nuy coirn' of il, Ijut thr itiicusaton of tht'in 
ijiii'SliodS i"usl iki U'X"' LiK-kinu jt it U,n. (.iust pfodiismfl lnjht. tht ttitmj nvyhl (>*• prtosl potwntial 
Hi' li.K,k», Itit' (».il iiurstioii IK a ililfiiiilt vi.f- Thdti' is no ituultt in iny iiniul titat Ihr olilur tKwhi 
*i ti- ttt-ttir. Thf old iiFii'S had a \at\ttf nun |,it of spliinitnl, rtiriirr»;t..'rahlu (MssjgiiS. Think of oltl 
Ciilli.r. Our Currmilum loiljy >a loo nimh a n;attnf of itiriids ami patLlii'«. Wii must altrr ttin iiliiala 

u' i<ur I (ill'. OiT ihitiiti'ti iru!*t Icartl that rictws am not the chu^f fnd. Wf ilo not do rrough with 

itliiis and patnotisfii. Ou, pcopir slioulil lin liri-d lo aui h a point u( intflliuiinti' !^^Jl tht^ will nut lin 
satislii;il With tht' ultra partisan (iriiss, Palnotisn) should tii! taught iliscnminatingly. Patriotism ami 
jiDyoisrii art) not tlif samn thinijM. Let us h.ivr d<> ifitrlliqunt palfiods'ti [hjt m < .i(ij|)h! of Ft)co(jni/ing 
thi' strung pointB ol tht^ natuins " 

fl. H. MtKay, M.P.P. iii.a[iufa( tutt-r "I say 'Amnn' lo reiiarka of Mr. McUoll. Glad to hear 
Mr. Ml Coll lay thure arp aomii piioiilt- m th> untry woratt tluin the politicians. ConferoncH would 
Iw. a guoil "lea, A hundfcij or so tirainy Can.i.i ans totildn't lomu toij.ithiT without domg good. My 
ultras already i<xpfOss<td." 

J, H, Kavanaiih jiostnustf^r'; "Wti (,dk atwut (tomocracyl Dit wit tK'lirvc in rul« of pitopli'? 
I( wc ilu, our systt'^n must Irn '•'.- ncd to people not to a confi'rfnn'. To what ojctnnt am I to hand 
rhild ovrr to Statti'' Somo pwoplo deny right of Sl.itii to takti my child out of my hand. How far js 
StatR to have auprt-mn authority? 

iVoiCt'; "That IS stittlud now; Statti tiills you you must send your 

.Id I 

school. I 

"Th-' most important thing in achool is a finely soloctpd ttiacher. It is the othical impression 
(irodurnd tiy the tiather that l)ulks largest. Buys itn^irossi'd more liy examplfl than by splendid passages 
Anything appro»imating religion is absolutoly tahoo in Nova Scotia. The mam thing is to produce in 
mind of young a ,)reat ideal an ideal different from the commonplace. II is not unnatural that sj' ( tss 
should bulk t)ig among us m a new country." 

Note tiy Prof. Osborne re atiove- This part uf Mr. K ' (ontribulion was not strictly germane to 
the subject, I had seen him privately and he was against. However, he evidently took more favoratilo 
view as meeting advanc(;d. Confession to me on way home that tlici' was more in idea than he had 
thought at first." 

A. D. Ciillis iCustom Drpl..: '■Nolhing mui h to .chl. We ail seem to agree tliere is something 
lai kimj. I think this convenliOM shoultl havi' endursation of everybody. " 

John A. Cameron i.menit'or of School Board): I ft^el a whole lot. American system is a 
good system. Has taken people from all ijuarters and stamped Ameritanism upon them. I went 
there fronj here at age of 9. Bt,forf> one year I was a shouting v< American. It was not spocficied 
teaching. One fourth of July is enough. Their system has an enormous assimilating effect. Rather 
than bring an Englishman, I would bring some big American. Conference would start something where- 
cvcr it rniijht cnti. I beti;:ve thji v.v an- ^l! [iravticj!;/ aiJrevd ri:arft:ts hjvc dcciincd. I havo had 
expetitmcc of at least three sets of readers. Earh has been inferior to its predecessor. Newpapers 
are tremendously influential toiiay. Nova Scotia siliool System was guod but is today overloaded with 
fads. The young mmd given far too many things to assimilat-;. We should get down to essetdials. 
Whole spirit among pupils today is How in the world can I get through this examination?" 


H.ll|liri) imrliny. Ii.lly iid 

Arri-.^nt 7tj«ri of nwm. 

Dufir^U the Kiurst f<f W 


|.ir Killi ..t CljilLlt'tciwri. Siri'plv ^lFll■^ltll| i|i{<uti "'' "ii;(i, 

Tui'|'*i's i)l>l (liunty (>f Cuntt'ldt'tl. Lriryc iiutuitnis (an. Irunki. 
I>ltriili.' Kirk tiuiNlir)j)a. fnuf imj li^rk rtiiinaut'iii at mfflmj), 
1 Orit'iMi'' s(imh 111' H'ukf a|>iifMiulivi ly of a<l<lri » .JfliviTi><l tif.m 

Id Cluli l> f- 
Club, wlio pri'Riili'il ti< 

f Jad'rt Aikir^i 

. Mjyof Fi[ii'. f jriirt.iM 

..US' Mayor imiIiI tiut i 

II! .it thr |,l'U>li 

tiir.j. wr. 

arrivrd, hr partu .(lati-d lit>aitify. 

Pl,i'> (it III. ■.■ting, City Cduriit Charnti- r 

I (v.jy say thai thr notf It. at B.'cm. (I lo atlijit l;.ir\ nuiti* uii j I. vi'l lAilh Ctinslidn El ■ . *..i* 
I iti/tTsfiiii. Meeting Bhowi'd siili'tiilid .Icvodun Id ulcj u! a iinilii'il, fiiM .1 naliyial sinnl 
Suuyt'it 'or lotal lommittec: 

His Worship Mayur Pip.' 
D. A. Mofri.sori, Pt.'si.l.'nt. Cjra.lian Cliiti 
Mr. Naft. J, Maiiagcr, Bank of Miintnal 
Rrv. Mr. D.tilili'.', Anulnar. 
Rev. Mr. RoSf, BaptiBt 
Dur^ald MuLoan, Bakery 
As 1 approaih cikI of Nova Siotia t suiji].'^! tliat Mlu'n it ronus to tim.' for pudln' iirnpa.t.i it< i 
At' shuulil s.'.ure serviici lor Nova Siotta tirtur.' ( ai aitian Clutis and Rotary Clulis, iti., of 
R.'V. Canon Lludd (Anglirani anJ Proft-swir H. L. Sttwait. Oalhousii'. Both .nthfatcd tu me Ihuir 
willingness in this ronnedion. 

I lOfitemplate al close fi'porlinu In Ciovcrnor tltaiit on all Iht* meetings h.'lij in Nova Scol.a, 
asking hini lo art as rallying (loint. 

Digest of Views Amherst 

Rev. Mr. Hose Baptist'! "Heartily endois.' plan ootlin.'il, If it savort.-iJ at alt of ectti^siasticism 
I shoulit oppose, hut I set; that it is totally i.lear of that." 

H. L. Hewson: "It don't taku ma long to sen in this presentation of the case the t)asi» elentents 
of good Citizenship, Takt; a ihild at ten, fill him *ith this for the nf»t (iigdt ytars, and you wilt mako 
a wonderful impicssion on th*' lift- of the whole lountry. No one afford to oppose this magnifictnt 

1. t. Douglas: "Wish I Lould speak well enough to say how warmly I approve. Idea most 
excellent, and I can only say how I wish that it may have the success it dcGi-tves." 

J. Alci Christie : "Havi! been intensely interesled. Wish mort; could hear this. Finest thing 
wi' could torsi(ier. The rthits and the spint of Jesus have not got enouijh attention. Thi'r.i is a vis on 
here that I should l.ko to seo worked out. I lieartily concur. A glorious prospcU to consider." 

Ci. K. Chapman. "One of the best things ro national eduialiun tlial I have heard of in long 
time. Certainly has splendid ring," 

Mr. I. C. Craig: "Have greatly appreciated address. My position linspectorj puts me in special 
position to sympathize. I have 2bO schools and have 2b years' experience. I have met all tho problems 
to which allusion has lieen made. In sevcntyfivc per cent, of schools of this county, scripturos are 
read. Was fearful at>out what was going to bff proposed- feared an attempt was going to bu made 
to press religion. That I should have had to oppose. The project will not bo an easy one. Tho 
provinces are anxious to maintain their full control. If any such bureau wore created, it would have to 


■ i.ldni> 

-rig th.i 
. Thrr 

lio iOtl)|>0Si;il uf vrry wist', wcH-l)iilari i:il fiii^ri 1 he dnyy nnytit wrll visit Ihr sihinjl ii ore fieinji iitty 
than tht'y ilo. Fifty ycaia Jiju Ihi; i IctijyirJii wjs Hie slur visilm. hi- wouJil lit- jusi js (vui h d|i;.m latod 
today. Thfru were not tun visits frurii (.'croytiiiTi in CiinitH'rland County last yijt." 

Mr. Pi'thii;k 'Managi!!, Bank of Nova Sotij : 'The matter has tn'i^n [tlairily iml. ami .icsrrvt's 
Larcfut thouaht. Splcndii) thiro, arul it (.iftd-Hj tamnl out W.M [ilai.- Canaila t.n mui h hii|l 
Ihan shi! now onupn^s " 

W. L, Ormoml .Roman Catholn : 'Am vry mm h i.lrjsril with tlir *d\ thr mallrr I 
suhmitttil to us, So far as t ran sfc, then' aic two oulsl.inintiii (luistnpns ur.t- is ufuly am 
peojil.: of this co'jntry. The Canadian Club tmds m this ilircilion. Wi .ill should lir umti i 
nIviukI t)i) no Quiihci.. We shoulil all tie Canadians. If ttiis s( hi:rr.r is (iroixily (aiMcil. it will tic 
fine. The other thing is: Hrightpnirg of morality in the sihmjls, I havi' ttie honor of helnrying to a 
< hun h ihat em(ihasi2es i harai ter in iduiation. We are (xipared to make ijnat sai 'dices to at Ineve I'Mii Confere.nce niiyht preupilate .liftnulties. There would fiave !'j lie (autinii .ihnot holding suli 
a lOnt.Ti'iHe, To do this thing would only lie apulyirig the Cutlulu [Kiluy to all the silmols, and lo 
that I i.'ttainly would not ohject." 

Mr, Neftal iManagHr, Bank of Montreal ; 'Printiples of sihrme as enumerated wdl ainteal to 
every t»q Canadian. Thero can li« no doulit as to the ailvisahility of such a siheme. All si henies 
turn for success on choosing the psychological moment, Cuesl'on is, has such a timo (ome? 
I think it has. The time is 0[)|iortune for a n.uvenienl like this, making for national unity. All grejl 
national results must he outconie of eduiation. Witni ss tht; Girman navy as the outiome of tfie 
efforts of the German Naval League. The war. again, n'.akes tl<e time [isyiholoiju al. The world will 
turn its eye toward Canada." 

Mr, Moorftouse: "Enjoyed very much tfit- addn ss, Fomts sf:ould tie (onsulered very (arefully. 
Schools are doing well, hut can be. madn to do tuttir. The si huul aye is the 'leiiressionahie age 
That .s the time to shape character for citizenship. Am very mu' h in atioril with sihen.e." 

Rev. Mr. Ditibh^e lAntjIJian : '"Five yars ago heard lectures m Callumia University on 
undying effect of American nationa' education. The unifying of Canada is the thing ahout this thai 
appeals to mn. Let us get the whole nation to have this great visicjn of iMtionhiiod It is > hr<!iti,iiii(y 
applied it IS thti social side of i hnstiamty." 

Avarit Black: "The idea can tie tamed out. It will tie j great i .ilional advami' <i>i us. It iS 
what IS neeiiod." 

OonaJd Mi;Lean : "Tins vision is a splemlnl nne. I am tii iilrdyt' niysri! to do all I ran 
to make this a success." 

C. S. Sutherlanil: "Am very intit:h irn[iti'i.sei' The iih.'a of urnlorm system thioughcnit 
Doiiiininn ap["jls very strongly lo me. This con^mittee ought !o en n ise a gfeat eal oral eftiit, Th.e 

schemt! Iit;gins at the right em!. The schools are largely re8j»(in<.dile for luttiie of n 
instal service, ui^selfishness. gootlwill in the si fiool system of the country, we stial! I 
step towanf l)ring "MJ al)out ideal tontlition," 

His Worship, the Mayor who had had lo alt.-vl a loimeillee, 1 .d lame in Ij 
tapped iMM^ause ol my lale arrival. What PridesMir Ostitirne s.i I to nif pnvatily i (i 
visit IS II interest of i,ommunity. The senti"" rls enpresseil to n^e liy ("mfessMr Os 

If we 

me ol (tie vision of a larger Canada, and I am 
tc further thn interests o) my coc'iliy " 

'The mayor had tieon at great pains to i 
Mr. Harrison prusitlont, Caraihan Cluh, 

in syrejMthy with d. I wi 

sure sun ess of met tmg.i 
ind chairman of meeting', 
a.-y has d<-.n;- s M: =t■■.^ ^ 

her schoc!" The German teacher who was not prejiared to tlo what Cue 

trackDcl. L.tit us copy her to the extent of "planning" for our National future. Our ideats in business 

ami (KihtHs should tut murh hightrr, Wn an: all in accoril. and can only hope that the plan Atil work 

out, Hi;rc is a flood movi^mt'rit coming from ttir Wnst, and wo wt'lconm it warmly," 

G"'r>lli'rv,dti who ram(> in lati? and wtiosn namci I did not get: 'Thn idra is to l.j.ii not a 

Qu.hfi or a Nova S<:uti,i, not an East or a West, but Canada, ' 

Ri- Amh«rst Mdiiting 
Thosi; mafk«'<l • prttsmt, 

•His Worship Mayor Pipp, Har<Jwari! Merchant 

■Thi' Rev, Mr. Diliblt'(\ Angliran 

Mr. C. R. Smith 

Mr, F. L. Milm-r 

■Ri'v. C, W, Rosr, Baptist dcadma church, 1,000 membersi 
■Ml J, A. Chrlstll^ Trunk Factoiy 

Thr Rev. Mr. M..Connpll 
•Mr. H, L H<;w8on 

Mr. E. E. Hewson 
•Mr, C, S, Sutherland boot and shoo factory! 

Mr. C. L, Martin 

Dr. Goodwin 

Jani(!S S. Smilt^y 

Mr, A. D, Ross 

Thi' Rev. Dr, Sterle 

Mr. H. W, hogi^rs 

■Mr, E- J- Lay, Supervisor, City Schools 
'Mr, F, Ci, Morehouse, Pfinnpai, Sthools 
■Mr. I. C, Crai'), Inspector, Cumlicilami Ciiinly Schools 

Mr, C, H, Read 

Mr, C, A, Lusby 

Di, Walter Purdy 

Mr B W. Ralston 
'Mr, Avjrd BUt k, retired business man 
•Mr. Donald McU'an ibakeryi 
•Mr. D. A. Morrison, Pmsidont. Canadian Club 
*Mr, Pethiuk, Manager, Bank of Nova Scotia 
•Mr Naftel, Manager, Bank of Montreal 
"Mr, LuQileti, Manager, Bank of Commerce 
"Mr. Douglas, Manager, Royal Bank 

H C. Fuller 

J, A, Hanway 

Mr, D, W. Rol)b 

Mr, A. Rohb 

FathiT Bfown 

*W. L. Ormond, Dtu-iijist R.C. 
•D K Lhdi.riyri, Dry ISoods Ang,> 

H. C Liigan, Baptist Er M.P.. 

J. T- C.irm'li LuTlierman 

:";"'. A. W i. ;:h,.-r MdjUiy Chj.(i.^ Gamp 

tii-o. T Dniiglas, Mariagef. Canada Comoany 



Thp Saikvillt' rMcctm.j wjs not ,i v'V notdltN' unc: n-vtrthflcss, I hjv'' visiti-.l t'ns Mcth(»iist 
I'fntff and st'cn most of thr rtifn aIki jnt fii'fr itiji.n.i thi' ?iuti>mi>f. All Ih.. .ipiinons vn-tr i r»rilidl arni 

Suoifav saw Brtga(li('r-G''neral Black, td wtiom I was intrndiji i^t hy tiis f,ithnr-in-law. (iijvrrnor 
WiKxl Ui'nridl Bla.ik was niust accussihl.' t(i (!■..■ id^.i arnl Ihn'kh !*■■■ t ni" nuiht OpiMjfturir ti , njtaitui 

Also saw R.'v Mr Thonijs, Ih.' M«'lhoilist mmistrr who sorry thai he had nol liffti [ifSivit 
at mrt'tmii, and who cxiif-'ss-'d thr grt^atftst ffllhusiasm. 

Committt!!' hi;t.' Ciovt'rr^ur Wood H.'V. Mr riimnas, fiut'SSuf Huntnii R>>v Mr, W.glt- 
I Principal, Ladrt's' Codgr 


Mi-:fiif?,| had '. ■ !"■ rii-li| Saturday night On that dunjnl [jusmi'S*. nuMi wu- rtol siiftn irntly 

Placir, (Joutinl Chjii:|ifr Uovfvnur Wood in i hair. 

Professor Palmi' Hi.a'* u' .A'/adcmv "As tar <is purposr' and n)'i.i^ssity arc i urtiiTrii-il, wi; ('ot 
all do jnythmg tjul a'l''- Tt,. pu'ytw is a moIjI- ur;.' Thi-r jr.- ddii' jltn's (>■ ■ td.-y an- sufliLicnt 
t(j kii'|i us from makirig the atti-'tif The tend.'r'ni-. nf th.- tinn jml L'juritry an- iiotalily mat' , 
and Ihi'.sr' ti'riditni<i:s shcuili) trc i ii'i-ilr'ft'd " 

CiOVfruK Woo'l: "I V.-nk lhi> .I'rhi.-.t' mi'thod has ,, [ much would d-'jir'iid on wise 
a'lviu' I stiould Ilk*, to SIT eltof* mad'' " 

Pfot.'ssof Watson 'Have lisUnrd wdh ,.»:• •*^' ami i,.>fs<-inall> hvl very Syrnpathetii Carr 
nvfiiili) dave to tf taken imt to ( onfuse r-hyion .Hid i-fh'-i " 

Pr-ii(essur Hunlon "H.'jrtily in syi'-.udl'w with <dea n* Winn^^- groui' Mavi' ticen of) TiustrT 
Boar.) IwfOty years ariil havi> a seOM' of ilitfir i.llies irivtilvil Ir j* Wvat t.r-r 'lave nev" known nf 
inure ihan one leather who I'Vi" t-dher f,(.eal'>d Loid's Pr,*y*-f „r reiff (M«M(je o* smtitu" My 
ile.iu-tmn is that Iheft* is <(.eat rie. ■! " 

M' Fusp- "If has 5ef(fi''d lo nie for many ycar^ thai it ir-^t k- -..- i>o3«ni'-f' to ynt an t-lhicil 

Ri'v. H Wigli;: "I ri3CPiufi this mrsMQi' as an inspiration. It is timely, I takn it as axiomatic 
that what nuohf to hn ran Ur. Thvm is a noed, and that is a chaMrnflt'. My conviction has brcn iJcep 
for yt^ars that we an- npglt'cting thpsp things lirrihly. Wn am not doina justly hy tho nation. 
The ( hunh strrssi'S the emotional. I am not surn that that is the highrst or finest condition Thu old 
type of emotionalism often sulisisted with very [>oor morality. 'To sit and siny yourself away to 
everlasting hiiss' while your niiyhhur is periBhing for lark of coal, I8 poor religion und |)OOr morality 
Home throws the liurnen on the Sunday sihool; Sunday school has only a Idth' ti'tir; and the roltust 
fihre of the nation n^ust he (tevloped in the sihools of the nation. Reason I think thiH is an inspiration 
IS the plastic torddion of tho nation. Everylhing is in flux. Into this loose mass thrust this great 
idea. It IS Ihii psyrhological moment. We are teaching all kinds of suhjeLts and fieijli'i ting the polar 
elements ot ihristianily. We aro living on short rations." 

Professor T*eedie: "Tht-nie very important. Ignorance of scriptures in the country very striking. 
The Germans have had an elaliorate system of religious instruction, and you see what it has 
accomplished It seems to me the normal schools are the key-position. Much depends on tho 
training of our ttachers. Everything (onirs hatk to the teacher Progrrss in thes*' matters cannot Uo 
rapid. t)ut conferrnce can do nothing hut good " 

Mr. Wiy ■■Dining the last twenty years havf hr-n hrouiiht ilosely in contai t with 
working-men. Not the slightest douht there is a low.-r smse of honor ahroad today than there was 
twenty years ago. The latiorer tf-.inks the employer is taking it out of him, so he makes up his minil 
to 'skin' hia employer. Whrie ran this he comhalled? While a tremendous problem, it seems to me 
plan proposed tonight may easily (h> th'' solution of this di'hiulty. " 

Dr. Seconl i medical : "Thought first it was a Mt. Allison Faculty meeting, th^n I thought it a 
Methodist class mei-timg, now I see il ,s a mreting of utizens. Professor Ostiorne and his ffiefids arn 
idealists. Hwwever. very little is auumplishrd uiil-'ss Ijuiii heil hy ulealisls. That ^t^>■n\ is rr.'d there 
can be no ((ui'^ion. There is great need Id iM)(ifovi' the ii-'iina! nuiijl lime o( the nation Good many 
':' us pay our debts because we have prop-'rty, and the law makes us, But the man that has none 
* ! can 'scuttle,' v-ry If'iueritly does it. The day whool has much more poteni y than the Sunday 
sihrKji. I heli(>ve tnal li'jit-liooks mufd It .onstrucled that wou d lie aci rptatile to all and that would 
ni:ukat« the lug idras uf i li'istianily " 

M()Nt:T()N. N B 


>lj (jllvil Ity M.i\<i< MjsU'i 

■.I, My 

r Fri'tirhmcn ArailMns . 


Spi'i lal l<\irLiTi' Prrsi<ni<' ol fi. 

vifii'-s IS FrtTiih AiailKi", JS ilistirKiuishnl from Frrnrti Cjr'Jilij 

Tin- f r.TUh pi 

Illation of thi! Maritimn 
i-( jll.',t. Tlli-y t'StirlMte 

I (.oiiviTSfil Willi tlirrn in dilvatiii' m Ihni 
(Kiasiun to switih from Enghsli to rn'ruli. Ejt h 
The fi'i'ling of Ihr mi'i'ting mounted in iiiniijlity. 

wri turiyiii', >inil iluritig i uutsi' ul pri'smlaliun tooh 
jnr uf thi! four pjrtx ipateil in Ihv most tordial wjy. 
iril jt thi' riost' there wdS an e»(ellefit .itniosphefo. 

H.v Bci'le> tire, n Ojpfjst Chtifih. 1 ,4(*l) ii>em|ters ' AilvafilJij.- Ih,,t the plan is tint i ut an.l 
dfiiil Eviifer'tly it lit felt thai tlii're is rtMjri lui iniprovetveiit n tlir tthual teailimg in the si hixils. 
I have [if'-n long in th<- Umteil States arid t know there is • - 1 fur tmprovenicnt Ihrre. A high school 
t>'ai her jtaiil to mr a ahort tune aijn 'The ethiial is thn weak -iiile in our system.' so that not only are 
the gentlemen in Winnipeg apprehensive, hut there is yround for a(i|ire(it'nM(Hi. Rei onslrui tion will Ins 
Ihe order of (he day afti^r the war. Therr vvtH lie ret onstru( tion whethi r we wttt or r<>. So that the 
t.i-ie IS most opportune, This pro|>os>tion rnakeS A Vi'ry strong appojl to rue, |f | wer.' father ot a young 
f.imily torJay I should deeply iteplurii the neutral trn<lt'm:ii!S o( thti day. We ou()lit to l>e alile to gel 
tfHp'ther. Three ot "ly tn'st frir^nds are, one a Chinaman, onu an Italian, and one a Frenthman. Th.To 
are four Freni hnieii lien- tonight. I do not see why we cannot meet on the platform of a tinjher, 
Stronger, more trustworthy Canadian citi/enship. I shall lie glail to assist in any way I can in this 

Ml, J, T. Hawke Editor. The Transcript , "Prefer to wait," Later he >.jid ■'Cilad I waited. 
I s.*e Professor Oslionie is really only on a fishing expetlitiori. He wishes to lairy liai k ideas to his 
friends. fJo rnofe important riueation than eduialiun; and holding of lonferi'tKr in this parlii ular yt-ar 
IS riiost nppiirtun.'. We itiust find rintimon grounif or confederation lannot lie a success. II this 
(onferend* [irinys Ifk,,, ■,'iindeil tm p. tmiether, | am thoroughly in favor of it. I regret the tiHi great 
ihvorie of ei|.„ i(.(.F, j ■! religion. Compl.t- diwor, e s .( ri.istake, t lielieye th.> Bihli as literature 
Should lie reprisrit.,1 ,n our rear'ers Hold Itle (onferenie .ind represent at il, all i lasses, < leeds and 
rai i-s," 



ul .t.'.stiaoil 

ni ipal, High S< hool . "Decidedly in favor of (onfereoic, strongly so. 
ei tiiin. 1 Any great movement for improvement of citiienship must 
1 make almost anything uf children. We say China and ,la|wn are lull of 
heathen ihild horn. Their surrounitings liavii made them Our ilnldren 
■ns. We agree on this re loyalty. If you wan! to have tne great (;jdli|ies 


ro A (.)ulto(i 
move Ml right 

iilddooil You ' 

i would lie Ilea 

leyin with the (hildren. How this is to he ilone must tie ilecided hy 
W(> can tram our children to this hahit ol thinking well ol otherv This is the i 
I. Toli'iatiie and aliseni e Irom pre|udice an among Itie features Ihal we must ili 
[I Wuolil like to see ionfefen. e yn forwj'd jn.\ woulit like to see the plan worl 
■ ot the peoiile are inllueni ed.'' 


Mr. AnioH Oiiieres inspei or ol W nools 
(onff^rencr. I know that WnstornRrs havit Koough ■ 


pe I III lo nation from sui h a 
o make wbatifver they touch a success. 


h(Hii.> itsrll, liHi riiuih *lf."i'l IS [i,.|-IV I'll' O'l "'SJ-n'rialKinv 
Thi» *ar mr.irs vast sainlM" * 'ic «ul(tiiTs wi<l l«4i ii '*■* t 
ilnvrn out o' 'ii/' l<tc, out ii( nil' |jiiMHi"»t, .jut nl inir pnlilu 
ttiat Ja|ia» jml C.i'Mtiatiy (iruvt- thjt futu^'s i J'i mat'c l!i< m 
ol))r(t ijn tut actoniplilhcil, *liy n t an ucM Ifilh odf '" 
Dr Miiharil mciliul (iroinpn.ot hFtnili Adulii" 
trll[>»v If thi'fi- 18 a iliiri-rrnx (i- 1 <k<'.'n thf ijm'H, .i'kI IM.' 
tiiodidtc (jrxhl fi'i;llfl(J H i» " 
I untruvirsijl i|<i' ''(""is. l)!^! l^i 

'A .1 Sftlse |)frhj()!| iTVlfl' V 

r»u' timr i<i ti|i|HirIiin'' In 

■ V..I.J.' ..t w.nfi.r. T(i.- 

Miatlily irt '*viiiu|i»' 
[v'S dii onlinii til a |utlr' 

-Lj;tt must III' 
ii(t>'<- tii'.itl'ly 

It dtl . Vll 

It t«j| lliink >tiini<)h ati-iut Hii- i>ttii-r 
t IS ilui' Id lyniiijrii-' W<i' iiU'i'il to 
iMUl till' way Iht' painTi rmstri)r.'S''nt my lai c. I I'n '^'it wilh Hi rjiii* 
Wifi' ipi'g nil J 111 l.""iji"i) tiiy-'liiiT .ill ibHNt'i !■! a ini.f.'tv.'ii- i!i a tuiit 


, Wi uinnot li 
nth Can.iila in nnt 

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:-i| CjiliiIj iir'til /"'■ 
Li't us yt't tmiftlii'' 

lUtiia'ly ..M,|, 

■Hill fai li 
■a^ h ollii'f. 

t'f's asfuralioiis 
Nutlimi] t.ut ')(....| 

Mr. MrSwi'i^niiy Homan (ialtiuln Ifailitiy itry ij«i(i-ls i'X'm I 
till- tif.i.ilfst nt'iiI'Ml (ii'ot>l" 111 thr M,;j.itrv. Qiyotfy an-l ,ill that < 
but thi' tionic IS till' firnt [ilair. Miijlily 'j^mhI nlrj tnf |ir(.iil' i)t i 

M. Lililarn , 'V.-ry iivjrh i-n|irfssr,| WftH |.r.>s.'fitatn>ri i.l c 

■ ttw 

> Ciltiuli 

r|i-.a;i[ii'ar r ' ■■/■■■Vt .iity rhililr.'fi 
■rit iiaits tn ] t 1 »|i'th"f," 
III clca Willi iiimni-l'' of inailnjl 
rhfistianity m llic whools, I am whjily i-i symiiathy. Thr prim i|ilf nf tdmi'i'iil ol tti*' l-tMrr ti'llow 
means ttiafity that is \hv h|imI uf i hiisliamly and that shuul I li'i the nli'jl iit Caiu'liaii -•atinr.ililv. 
ImbIiI ItiiiSi' scntimi'dts in thii si h mils an.l you anomphsti a gniat en.l this is 'Di u'ln othi-fs what 
you woulfl liki! othiTS to (to to you ' The Kl->a shoul'l tiTinvi' yiTU'roua »i'«|Hinsi' PTit.'hXI AiaJiant 
in till! Maritime Provinces. No m<ir.> loyal Bntons tlun we The ptinii|ili! of th" liol ' 'i Rul-' « .I'l 
lie I statilishrit 111 Ihi' »i himts " 

Ex-Jl(lcrman Cranlall tuil t.i utdi tMin. I sat.l ■ ■'Dors ule.i stnk^' ynu iavoralily?" 
"Indeeil, it Hoes; it ilors. We ar- getting gooil teaching, knowlmtilf ennuilh, liut sMniethii-,j i<i wanl-nij, 
! brlievn conferenie is miht tie'tinning. Anyone nxhii has the Melfare of the (iiiintiy at heart *iill 
aplirove 111 the idea." 

Hev. Mr, Barfa.ltiuiih Pastor, First M.tlio-tist (■hutih 'I rcgn ? 'iLil i was i.iHi.t out, «.t Ihjl 
I have not hearil all. Of lourse, I have lieen in i (i-versaliec Aith Prnf' ssur HslioMie The pr. s- m . 
of our French Irienils makes this meeting speually intereslitu), Matetijlisin will grow if it is mil 
lountereil. I am glad to see that we Iteheve that the , llm s we need iv the ethus ol ctiriMiarnly 
Our Fremh friends hete use )ust as familiatly as we I'o ll'e ureal ihiiflue aiiores 
lavor of (onlerence " 

Alderman W.-tmo'i' ' Mise to express my sympatliy with [iriMitamm.' Cnnvi 
great ||uoil to nation," 

Mr. Arsenault. "Evefyliody here >s mui h <n l.tviir ii( th- idea. The Sugij.'Sl 
out will tie of great advantage to Canada. ' 

Mr, Buurg.'ois "Very nun h in aiiord w.tli nlrM I Ui,\f this lortveeti, 

His Worshiii Mayiii MjsIits. [itr^sent [itr'Sidinii at start, had to atli'iid a 
riilurned toward i lose. 

H. S. Bell PuIiIk: S. liool Trustee . ■'In sympatiy with m.vemenl. I .i 
. McCully, K.C., piesi'lent, Canadian Cluli askeit liy Mayor to [ir.'siili 
meetinij uniiiuii. Both races. Thr auLord here should be omen ol what conferenre should an'omplish 
The good lei;lin[{ her>' tonight has tirren ilelightu.l. Mutual knowlerlge will unity Canada as nothiiif] 

else ian Hay [X.ints oul in CietliiiU To.,eHiei- eMurrg le^lv-.-en Er.ijlarid and Arr,-r„a 

has be«n duo to mutual ignorance This convimtion is move in right ilirettion." 

strrmrily i 

Vlll lOrne 

■'■ting, liut 

) abser 

W. r. Oshotri! 

At Moncton. N,B.. I conclude visit to Maritimo Provinces, I have visitnd Fredcricton, St. John, 
Saikville and Muntton in New Brunswick, and WulfviKc, Windsor, Halifax, New Glasgow and Amherst 
in Nova Scotia. I have also visitiul tfie cainlal of Pr ncc Edward Island. I havR laid project formally 
hediir uiiwards of 200 of the leading citizens of ihese provinces. Governor Wood, wh . o term has 
exptfed Within the last few ilays, lias consenUul to act as ■■presidtni) yemus" for Ne.v Brunswick. I am 
tgJay writing Governor Grant, of Nova Scotia, in the same connection. In my reports I have named 
small committees for each place. 
General Conclusions:- 

1. I am inclined to think that some formula like "Ethical Citizenship" might provide the way 
to a common platform. 

2. I have noted yuite a current of opinion unfavorable to importtng an Englishman to advise. 
Tliis was most noticealile among the Scotch elc^ment in Nova Scotia This ol)jection would proliably 
yield to contact with Siidler. But a conforence should be held even if a noted man from outside the 
bounds of Canada is not available. I think I can say that there will be sharp disappointment among 
these groups if the conference idea is not proceeded with. 

3. It is for the committee to decide whether, for the rest of the way, the propaganda shou'd not 
be made more public in character. I have taken the precaution throughout here to request the editors 
not to make any note of the meetings, Absolutely nothing has appeared except one reserved paragraph 
in the Halifax Herald. Personally, I do not for the moment see why the project sfiould not be 
placed, say, before the Western Provinces, through the medium of Canadian and other clubs. The 
idea of a national objective would prove very attraciive to public groups, and something of the sort 
would ultimately probably have to be done in ordur to secure adequate representation at a conference. 
When it comes to representation, I fancy Canadian clubs, Rotary clul)S and Boards of Trade represent 
the constituencies that should be asJ^d to send rcprestintation. In these provinces 

talont(Ml speakers will be available 1.. pursue public propaganda, 

4, After ten group meetings, I can report that only two clearly dissident opinions were 
those ot Dr, Allison and Dr.Forrrst at Halifax. The occasional rrsrcrsible politician present has been 
cautious, but not opposed. The yn^at argument in public propaganda will be the note of an energized 
patriotism on unified ethical lin s. 



Profrssor W. F. Osborni!, 

Univt^rsity of Manitoba, 

Winnipeg, Manitoba. 

^ft for n\v. in my cff c 

1 my ahst'nf(> I found auvaitmy ric on my 

Di!ar Sir: 

Tht! notf! which you 
riiturn to SackvJilf!. 

I was ktry sorry imlcifd not to havi; had tho pftiasurt; of m'^rting you and rcgn?! that I happi^ntMt 
to be away at the timu of your visit to Saukvillp. I havi;, however, hail a talk with my fatht.T and ho 
has explained to mo the oi)jcct of your visit. I have not bvt-.n able to go into the matter, and of 
course am unable at the present time to givr any opinion as to its practttability in uur Province, Put 
can assure you I am in hearty accord and sympathy with the purpose of your mission. I will tie glad 
to hear further from you when the movement assumes more definite form, and to interest my self in 
the furtherance of your work. 


Yours sincerely, 

H. W. WOOD. 

Government House, 
Halifax, N.S., 

July 16th, 1917. 
My Dea' Professor; 

Your letter of the 11th inst. came duly to hand and I was greatly pleased to hear of the cordial 
reception given you in the province on the interests of ethical citizenship so ably presented by you 
at the Halifax meeting, and I am sure the result cannot be other than successful in the end. 

When the project assumes definite shape you may rest assured I will do my utmost in assistng 
to carry out any lines the Winnipeg committee may suggest, 

I am. 

Yours sincerely, 

Professor W. F. Osborne, 
Winnipeg, Man. 

MINUTES OF THE MEETING of trf Cornnnttrr !in Moral Eitufjl.oti h.'lif at thr Imlustnal 
Burdju. Winni|ii?ij, MjnituLia. on Fmlay the l.?th day ot Octtilii^r, 1917, at the huur of fiu'it o'lIim k in 
tho evening. 

Thf followmg ufntloitirn witp presiTt Mrssrs. W. J, Bulman, T. D. Farfcy. D, W. Mi Kiirchcr, 
W F nstmrniv Rpv, Dr. Chown, Rev. Dr. A. B. Baird, Chiel Justice Mathers, Dr. J. A. iVlaclean, 
Dr W. A, Mclntyn-, Dr. Daniel Mctntyre, Etlward Anderson. K.C., W. H. Uardner, J. Frank Fistier, 
H. B, Th()m(i«"i. R. W. Craiij, K.C, and A. E. J-'inslun. 

Ml. W. J. Bulnian artrd as chaifman of tii . meeting, and A. E. Juhnston ai ted as secretary. 
The minutes of the last meeting of ttie committee were read ami approved. 
Professor Ostiorne gave a hnef outline of his journey through the Maritime provinces in 
connection with the proposals of the (.ummittee. 

Rev. Dr. Chewn also spoke of his work in connection with his iour.iey to the Old Country, and 
of his inlerviev^s with Dr. Sadler and other educationalists in England and Scutlai.d. and nad a letter 
from Dr. Sadler to himself relative to Or. Sadler's appeanno in the Dominion in lonnicliun with the 
work of the committee. 

.,jnsiderahlfl discussion then ensued as to the advisability of holdinu a conference with the idea 
of having Dr. Sadler pres. nt about March or April, I9I8. and after this discussion it was moved by 
J. Frank Fisher, seconded by R. W. Craia. that this committee recommend that a convention be held 
in tVlarch or April in order that Dr. Sadler's (oming may be taken advantage of at that time, and that 
the other provinces bo communicateil with to see if that be acceptable to them. 

Moved tiy Edward Anderson, seconded tiy D. W. McKerchcr. that this comniittee authorize Dr. 
Chown to procure the attendance of Dr. Sadler at tho conference to be held, and that this committee 
Ouaiantee the expenses of Dr, Sadler in coming and of Dr. Chown in arranBing for same. 

Moved by Edward Anderson, seconded by Dr. Daniel Mclntyre. that a committee on organization, 
to be selected by the chairman, be appointed for the purpose of mapping out and reporting on a plan 
of action to this committer, and that such comn.ittee approach the Board of Governors of the University 
of IVIamtoba with a view of pronring the services of Professor Osborne for the purposes of carrying on 
the propaganda of the committee. 

It was the opinion of the committee that Dr. Chown should be requested to communicate the 
programme of the committee to the Governor-General with a view to securing his co-operation in the 

It was the opinion of the meeting that Dr. Daniel Mclntyre should draft a resolution from the 
committee thanking the Governor-General for the interest which he had already shown in the movement, 
and that such resolution should be handed to Dr. Chown for the purpose of having the same 
communicated to the Governor-General. 

It was also the opinion of the committee, and they recommended, that Mr. Bulman, Dr. Chown and 
Dr. Baifd should approach Archbishop Sinnott with the idea of securing the co-operation of the Roman 
Catholic people in the plans of th" committee. 

It was aiso the opinion o( the committee that it should be left to the Committee on Organization 
to bring in a recommendation as to the plan to be followed for enlisting the sympathy and co-operation 
of the Provincial Departments of Education. 

The committee also expressed the idea that Dr. Sadler should be requested to coma to Canada, 
whether it was possible to hold a conference or not, and as to the converse that a conference should be 
held whether it was possible or not for Dr. Sadler to attend. 
The meeting adjourned at 10.20 p.m. 

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li. Siii« iiriti'Milf'tit, Mi'tlHiiliM Churth of Canjita 

I (,t tMirufu) in th( 
tilll^ I'l Vir |iut>liL 

<^ttm.8 of Christ 
!t: (if our Lountrv 

In Mafih last, w'li "' 
'jniifi! an hiI.ivhw tiit^ri 
■ Ftrv'i'iul Dr. Bair.l, Mo< 

\iV.i>iiipi>(| Mrttmij, l-.>th OMuhrf, 

Tht- hmtiiriiji syn(i|)8(s of my lorticclion willi (hi' infodui tior 

hliv ihc [lublic schools of lliv Domiftmri y( Canaila, ami Ihf iifrmt'a 

vilh Ihi' vtfmai [irini iplfs i)t Christ, i an lie juniitictl up as follnws 

arrival in Winoipr-g, I was loforninl hy Mr, W. J. Bulmart that hi' haff 
1 His CitiUT An htiishnp Mathrson, Anglxan PnmatH of All Canaila, anil 
■f.itur fif Uw (if'ni'rjl Assi nilily ot th'' PfrsliyliTfar> vhurch, with mr 
fur tlir putposi' of (liwussHig thi' possiliilily of lauruliKiii a niovriiiiT.-t of that Sort ir Canada. 

Afli'r ronsirlrrabln ilisrussJon wr can:v unantrfuHisly to Ihf loniluMim Ihat thrre was nothing .ri 
thf poliiy or programmf of iiithi'r o( thr thrro fhurcht'S wn tcprcsfnti'it that woulil intiirfrro with tho 
(iroG'fs^ that ilirnlion. I had also, at the samn timr. an intprvirw with loading ptiucationists, 
Dr. Mclnlyir mrluilfi), for thr putposc of further elalioratiori of Uw olijiTt w(! had in vifw. I was 
asked liy the at.ov-named iirntlimcn to interview the prrsulenta of the three western universities 
t,ii a trip to the Patific toast whu h I was then ahout taking. I saw President Murray, of 
Sask;tl(hewan University, anri had a very lengthy interview with him upon tho suliject. t also saw 
President Tory, of Alhorta University, and ron'panied with Principal Biddell, now of Wpsley College, 
and hail further discussion with them of an enlightening nature. 1 afterwards saw President Westlirook, 
of the University of British Ccjlunitua. These three presidents of universities I found perfertly sympa- 
thetic and quitti forward to tiwr n.e reasons wtiy we should proreeil as rapidly as we could 
consister'tly With tht) factors involved ii- so intricte and important a problem. They advanced reasons 
for this great movement, fuih as the necessity of legulatmi], if not overcoming, the spirit of mammonism 
which threatins the very fabric of Canadian society, and also the need of (niparting to foteign peoples 
the foundations for democracy and such ideals of cilizenship as wdl make them worthy to bear the 
burdens o' yovernment in this new land. 

Upon my return to Winnipeg from the Pacific coast, His Honour Sir James Aikins very gracijusly 
tendered a public dinner to gentlemen sympathetic with the movement, at whieh about the -.-right 
persons gathered. After the dinner, His Grace Archbishop Matheson being in the chair, addresses were 
tTade by the Reverend Dr, Baird, Professor Oslwrne, Lieutenant-Governor Aikins, Dr. Mclntyre, 
niyself and others, highly endorsing the movement. At the close a coniniittee was appointed, 
consisting of some thirty business men and the beads of the three churches already referred to, to 
take further steps towards tho realizatior of this ideal. 

Shortly after my return to Toronto I was asked to call together certain persons regarded as 
heading educatio.iists, to inaugurate the movement in that city. At this meeting President Falconer, of 
Trinity University, was voted to the chair, and after explanations had betn mai'e by Archbishop 
Matheson and myself, and a good deal of discussion had, adjournmrnt took place upon the under- 
standing that a larger end thorouyhly representative n teling would be held in the Round Room or 
Senate Chanibi'r of Tor[into Univetsity. In dut- course this meeting took plaie and I was requested 
to set! Dr. Sadler, Vice-Chancfllor of Leeds University, to discover whether he could come out to 
Canada to attend a general convention repiesentative of the Dominion, for the purpose of launching 
the movement. It '•■as understood at that meeting that in the city of Winnipe;i would bo found 
sufficient funds for oiganization purposes, and it was suggested that at the g<;ni)ral convention steps 


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'\fKn>i-tMi . 1,(1 iif (:.ii ,fj, i hji' a iiitivrrsd 
,■ at thi> iHKwiMty I (ooc.i hini v.'fy kr.Til 
l>is VI. «r f F,. thr tii-r of th." S.ltidii fj( Ih. 
I. .1 fi* v<',|i^ ago Ilir (d( t that tiiTinaity, 
Nys|rri!.ilu>'\ ami Irioroi/uMy Ih.ic ar'v (iHii'f 
inlilf <atastro|>lii' Hat fiom Vkhuli </,!■ a 
' liini iH'sitatu c('('(i'((int(| Itif vatiii' nt ii. 
Moulil havr.' In hi' tl'uught f>ut ■.U-.l.. I >:<m Dvi-ml, 
iiji a i->MsiTsi..s (it <ii:((jhtiT'iil (jpMiofi in Cat.,iila, an 
h ilivcrycrm of Viiv^. I think it la hi'ImVi'd I'v.ryyvhi 
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hail 111 lif.i'il his VI. /.,, (ir al I. ..-.I hail n .,i 

II "Viilrnt to him th,.t Ih-' v^l nlc -^ut^M 

our (Oiiyi'fsition, that su lai a* i lan iiatl.i i 

pail) it . -Ih his mi'VKtioFiH, there ig fkiI ihl 

that th(! (haiailir of the t.-ai hi r Lourls tcir 

liUlc vaiu.', anil that posRihIy thr most aptirdpnalti and uM-ful rn- ihi,i| of prcaitimg a'i(f ti'afhi;i(i of ..[tiiis 

lAOulil («■ liy ri-w-ilinu the histuiy of th-' En riM', [...Minii ui thr fur. front thti working of Ih.' hiiihi'il 

ty >e ot ((atriolism, and so statirg Ih,. as.- ar. to [ii''"'ial.' lalhcr Ihan formally suqh 'st to fi-' (i.-npl.' 

that the roots of this siiprcmi' (latriotipm are (ouiiil m thi' ri'liijiiius iiKiyiitions ami lifi' of In.' nation 

at la-'jf 

Allirv,arils I hail an mti'ivi. w, .n (i-iTpany wdli PiChidfiil Tniy, with Mr, Far-iuhafs- n. vvhn, 
I hrhevi'. la the Ki-r.elary of tlic tV:oial Em.uition L< ■■ ■ irf Britain. We Spfjki' ahind hiiw I'l 
ri'jih thii tcathiir, jml niinvcd tho inforn'attcn :l ai idlar.d tl-cy putihsh a maijaimo r.,|,.i4fly ^.ii.i (,lijt'(l in view. They hoM ' s.hiolfe (i^r !...i inu cradw^t ileieorstrations. Thi y |i,.^,. a. 
Con-n.itti'H of ConsKlfMatior ilri,wn from eduiators in a very wide sensi', Ttier ' is constant -iMiiissiun 

uoii'ij on hut the (ommitt s not organically conn'i.ti-il with thi' Cntv-'inrH(^nt. Hn said Iha^ Ih.i 

Cathulics in Irel ml wire k.'i rly leliri'fleil ari.l h.ivi- had r. pi.'^i rt.Uiv-'S at Ihiif <:(in(.'rcm .'s. Tin- 
'iiethod of api-nadi to the mt.,..| ih the partK ularty i;il,.ij;i pr.iMen-. Ont^ diflu ulty ts rii;sed hv th-' 
ailvoiati'S ol what is called "prat tical" ciluiation, or eiJiHatioii whuh answrreil Ihe hri'ail-.iml-imlter 
nnnessitH'S <,l lit". Anolh. r olijidion is raised almost universal^, that it is mipnssihle to add . new 
Siili|oct to the pn sent fjOLiiM' of stiidy. What tht! assot atior that Mr. Farquharsor liclongs to S"<'ks to 
promot(! is indiroLt tcarhiiuj hy corirete examples from hfc, l,y the Icllirg of atiecdo es - ,tout pointng 
the moral, and by displaying pictures in si hool ot a natiir. to riloeate tho mural sentiriK^nt. Th( German 
id. a must he lon.liated that history is rot moral hut is to t'e studitd simply and solely from a 
sfientific standpoint, and that its ulltmatc value s in IKe m-ri,e(tiate , "sent. We iliwiusseij certain 
attempls that I'.ad tieen marle, sui h ns the mdire, t piesentntn.n i' diny moral app icalions 
sardwKhed in, and also arolher plan, nan-ely, thf teaihir.ij (,; the snvple It'coretical pi.tilems oi rthics. 
He menliiined m som(! tases they tea( h the buhstanci' oi Aristnlle's elhics. Th( n it is founiJ dangerous 
to proceed to the discussion of modern social prohlnms, arti tlien to seek to arrest the thought of the 
pupils liy representing to them a type of citizenship whiih is reioiiu^ril at once as havi ui a 'ni'l in it. 
It has neeri found of advanU-jie [v teach morals to children Ihioii'ih the surv*iy of tho di i.t n. which 
thuy live, 


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-ivol,. .1 tri r*'.il -..r^' At' i,i-i l.'.irr. v i> I'ttL' (trie, t»'.r.i. ami iii.,„ f. 
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i>tll'>' till |h.. (iiit|>'i*"' o( i|ivHi|| .l.f.mlr ariil |inilii(ii|<'i| Htmly tn tl'f nudi'tl ji^r r>'(Nnf mii flu ,t 

f.n.|ip>fh Al t'T HJtf.- lim. , I .Ifii iiHiyiri.rd ll>^| j rtu: 'I'f -tturnl, mji h .m ()r Sa.lliT i», MiHtl^l (|iv.- 
ipti. •..■(.■.. i"i|.i m llim itri.v. jd.t <li.)M |H>pi>>.ir iilt'T't'.i.i t() it in a A.iy .>» lo ^r, i.rc li>r it ,i 
.!.■,(..■,■ ot (.tvoi t'.l i.,.H, ji. (.filing ti< -ly u st.ui tiuii*. ,f |ir . i,<j|.l niaki it (kismM 
'■■ I" ( .iP'4H- I <|iv.' IM I.I-. .MOKlj.i..- Hr th.Ti t.>lil wr fut Iw »,., | ,-il,.r ti> .in jmjt-.j.ti 

A.(>i t*i.- (iov.-f'tmi't't t(» till til Ir-lia *it'i a VI.'* <.t liflj.iF'ii til' m rriuMstfiJil iiniy.'fstty lifr *,tli, I 

|.rh.V.-, tif lUUIMiir m vh A I.I lil|'l»i.itily ,("iitini| [Hllitujl m.mIiI .i i ', |., ii,.f:, Ijtiy „| fful ,,,,.,( ,.,i,J 

ti-iTiUMi) l.ini| 

I Jftir^..r.l% r j , ..|,l.- fn„„ M. W J Hul.n.m, r.„i,. sti.-i, m,. to I i„ i o.-.r ar.i, 

M ttl'^ Minn. ^ (in- I t-vy viy t'Mt t^.. Turn ito ...■r(iri(j jln'jilv 
iilrjt liiiint vt rit.'i|ii-() ftir Ihr (ji rural i ■'vrriti.jn Af|. r Mini,. 
Kt.ttin[l thjt if hr liHJfiit it l'i)»Si|i|i> < i|rt jw.iy f-ijiti I. u.i aiIh 
M, !'■■ ilittiri-ii.. lit .Mil''-" IiiIa. , ,1 tri[) Ihdt wuiihl hnni| h, 

mill (Mll.lH.1 liy A.1V 111 V.IKMiltVi I 
trfirri'it t<i I.K'111'il W<i>iii(ii-I| .IS .1 I 
'li'l.iy I lu<l a li lt''r Irnin Or S.nlli i 
a r..isi)rialili' ti >', , a'ul il a.- Wdutit 
to CanaiU liy w.iv nf Tiikm ami Hm 
Itr wouitt mini' uvi'f .mil fi*Ti.liT to i 

.M|, ,11. r| III, 
,lt dNMStjIll 

'it .. I.i|i itifit frm.1 Cal itta t" Liiriil 


Till. Ur.iviTsity- 


/ .■^. 1917, 
Draf Dr. ChnAn 

Fr.'liivi thi' vfy iir.'al imfKirtan. i. ,if yiiur OMi|.n«.il ri-i-rtinfl m Whuii[>i'(|. ami l.r-ru, aruious In 
ri'nili'f to vou, til tl'i' Diiki' of DrvDiistufc, aril tu Caraila. ■■ly lii'lji id niy [kiait, | aiM liy if ttir 
huliari tioviTnrfiriit, or tlir Sriri'tary ot Slatr for Iridia, Whcni I hltall sni on Si |j|'>ir.l)iT iL'lli. think i| 
Mimtiatil'li' Aitli my Imlia work, (%ili ulta UriivrTSity Con'ruissiotin, (if Almh t am i ttatrriian tu nlurn tn 
Eiiqlanit ffom Call ulta arriLiml I'nil Manh, lOlfi. liy Vamouvcr, Winni[irfl, M.mtrfai, Ottawa and Toronto, 

If, Ahrn Ihf laliours ot Ihi' Cjiiutta Umviihity Ciimniission arc fir-ishcd m St-ngal at thu mul of 
thr mill AialhiT, I am not rftiuircd m tht- mtiri'st of tht; Commission r^' reports to go Itark straight to 
Lnrnlnn, I shall U-v\ it a ijnvilcgc ami an insiiiration to visit Canada and join m lorsultation with thti 
Icaifiirs of the husini'SS, religious and rduiational iifi' in Canada. 

But, until I tiavi; scrn Mr. Montaijui: or possihiy until thr scopv of thd Call utta University 
Commissions work hciomns dfarttr, I rannot Speak with ronf:il(mt('. 

Anyway, you may di^pund upon niy (ommu if I i an. 

rir my way I'd want two days, or a tnfln more, at Ti.ku., In investigate univrsity (juestions there 
.iiiii I'll ais.0 (all at Hong Kong on thn samp errand. 

When wi met in Leeds you wurp so good as to say that expenses wou'il not tie a iliffnulty. 
Miyht I assumn that your committer! would pay iriy expenses from Calcutta to London, via Vani ouver, 
li'Ss wlial IMi> )iiurney Caiiutta-London .as now planned) would cost? 

Believi! me. 

Yours truly, 

iSutt.j M, E. SADLER. 


■ of \b>: 

Mr. W, J, Blilmaii. 

Ttiti Methodist Chufiti, Captada 

Wcstty Buildings. Toronto. Ontano 

Novcmhcr 24, 1917. 


an B'os., 

Wii'i'ip-'i]. Manitotia. 


• Mr, Bulman: 

from the Private Socn-tary of His ExrHlen.y th.i C.ovrnor Ck-n.-ral thr following 

1 havi^ 
messaijt' : 

-Th.. & or Grncral has ri-rclvi-il th<- following from Doctor Mulrai-I Sa.ll.r Ihrouoh Govnrnor 

of B^nrjal: Bniri^t «o,k of Cakutta Uni.i'rsify Cor.m.,ss,on mak.s r.tu.n 1>, Vanrouvrr mpossiblo.' " 

1 suDPiis. *.• shall ha.« to .ji«.- up ho,,.: of firttmi) him for tho pr.sfot. I thouiiht I v.ouW lot 
you know so that you would h« al,l., to think out your plan mdrpon.l.intly, 

\N,- ar.' viry liusy now with Viilory Loan and Eledions. and havi- not tim.- to give mu.h Ihouiiht 
to anythiiKj flsi- Vou. no douht, arr in thn samn fix. 

With kind rnfiards. 

icnrply yours, 


M E M O F^ A N [1 I.) M 


ti.'t'cr.Tl ConinuTil 00 Visit of 

W. F. Oshorni' 

Id Wfstrtii Ofilano in IrliTcsts of 

■■(:ili;fnshi|) ttifout)lt ttic V; ^lools" 

Hk'i Ihal I shoLilil 

As a result ot < orsult.itint] in Tot(,rln v.i!h Mr. W. J Bulman, it has lir 
,nt.-T.ut)t mv visil 10 Ontiino for lln> motiv.nt. visit Morlr.'.il I^ ari'l Ihin (fm-r Wi'St. m order t» 
get sortii- vioik {ionn thcrr hcfdrc I' 
of mrt' on rcodcl of those ijivc 
ment about try Ontario work, whirl 

.■ harvest W{yr.?. 1 Ktv 
I lasl SLimnirr. Imt think li 
may rearh the lian'ls of i 

nsn'iltdl to Winni|:r(j. dctailnl reports 
'ay lie well lo make a tjeneral state- 
iilrets in ailvame of thti detailetl 
statements. I (all atlenlJon to the ilesirahility o( a.ousin ditivity as far as [lossil'le, s.mitltanerjsly 
on all parts of the country. It is that fonsi-lerahnn thai prompted us now to biKjin in tht; West, 
Renewal latt-r of activity m the East will only serve to .onf.rm the (H.l.lii impresb.on of the solidity of 
the movement. 

I have visited m Ontarto, the followmg places, the presiding off.cer of the meetin.) heind indirated 
in (lach case. In eai h plare 







St, Mary's 




eeting has oraanized it?elf into a group for the purposes of the 
G, V. Lyon. Chairman hydro-Elfttric Conin, of Ont, 

e of Mayor Dakin w 
) Mfijr. fVlayor Monti 

ailed the 
rallod meeting, 

AIM, D. Charlton ir 

ficorge McLagan, F 
and was present. 

Meeting railed ly Aid. Brandon m ahsi'ncf! of fVluyor Dale. 
Mayor McBridi, 

Meeting called tiy President Braithwaite of Western University. 
Mayor Sommervillfi present, 
St, Thomas. Chairman Mayor Norton, 
Woodstork, Chairman Maynr West. 
The Meetings were heM as follows: 

Guelph - Y.M.C.A. 
Gait Council Chamtier 

Stratford - Board Room, Town Hall 
St. Mary's Council Chamlier, 
Br?ntford Board of Trade Rooms, 
Lnn(fon Council Chamber, 

St, Thomas Council Chimlier. 
Woodstock Council Chamber, 
Starting out from Toronto, I tletermined to utilise the good off-ces ot the newspapers in the 
interests ol the movement. The Glol)e, The Mail and Empire, The World. Th.- News, and, I helievo. 
The Star and The Telegram. a< corded generous space. The last two I have not seen, The papers 
in the iucdl towns Have bepn mrriial to a drtjn-e. 1 havr p.pv:;fvF-1 \^r. rr-.a^rl.-i! tt^.it rnm.f; under 
my notice, and what 1 now have totals hetwiien 25 and 30 solid columns of the most cordial publicity 



„„l,i.lii. U.1 h.iH.a-d,./r„ ...ijls, Ev.v sir.ijl.' 1,.|»', ,ii Ih.. ,.„jlit li.*ns I lu.,' visit..! hjs ...|ilaini-.l 

A t.jlui.' ul IP..' liili IMS h,m 111.' vMv . I I....I. ssiu.Ml M h,»J-n...n j.i.l ol . l.-igyiiun, Tli.i . jlls 
In ni,| hav.. 1....I .u.iili, a;. .1 H'. mosl ..■.l,.i...s |.y IL.' H.uli S, li.i.i. C.i'iii.T. ul Di.|a.tmi'nlS, 

I latf 5,. U...I Ijiiirabi.' i.a.)Iu1.oh» I..1IV. Cli.' Pi. sliyt' I,, mial Ass.'mWy al Lon.lim, an.l 
f..mi till- ( .iiiivil ..' W.iiMn al tl.f .lal'' .il tins latt.T I hav.. .nclu.l^d wom.-n 
(,l.',..s 111 .alls. I am uiuli 1 1 iii,.i!|iiiii'iit lu ail.l" ss Wiiiiu n's 1 aiiailian Cluli al Luii.liiii. u.i Jgiii: 27tli. 
anil til.' Bfantfnfil R.ilarv ( lull 1 n July 4th 

Tins IS iii.aiit just as a iimi.iary ..■imtt. 



Dr. Miilia.'l Sailler, 

ViM'-CliaiK.llO' Unr, 

Cakulta Urn', Comn, Calcutta. 
My Di'ar Sir; 

Yua will "sail the Canadian Eiluiationat Proji'il l.roucjhl to yi.ur alli-nlion by a Icll.r (rom His 
Exrpllcnry Itin Duk.i of Devonshire, and tiy thii R.v. D.. S. D. Clic»n. 1 hav.i t.»cn askeil hy the 
Winnipeg Comniitt.ii- to act as Ocneral Secretary, in the vverk nee.le.l in orrli-r 10 assemble the Con- 
ference. We are not pror ng pri'cipitately in this .natter, .leeming it «,ell to iiMle the movement 

really national by a llinrough pr.paring of pulilic opinion. Last sumni, r I visited a dozen points in the 
Atlantic Provinces of Canada, vyhoro I met about 250 leading men, and secured promises of co-operation 
• om them as wi-ll as from the Lieutenant-(n,ve.nors of Nova S.otia aii.l Ncv. Brunsurick. That part 
ol the propaganda was condutted very eui.dly, our tbiect h.nng to find out whether leading opinion was 
favoralrUi to the proied. This summer, being tree from my Ui.:. rsity .lutics tor four or fivo months, 
I am visiting the rest of', The Camp-ign is now b.nng rariied en publicly and the response 
of the press and of representative iitil.'iis has so far been nu st grat.'ying. The post war ni-ed for 
educational ac. el.iration, the desire to differentiate ours.lves as mu. h cs possibli' from Germany and the 
disapliearancc of divisions of the war effort of the people, are all proving most aospiiious iirtumstanres. 

1 wished to write you, for one thing to appraise you thai careful measures are being taken to 
pave the way for the conference, and further, to drop the sorjgesticn that a trip across Canada liy your- 
self on your return trip from India, would no doubt be of great assistan.e. The e«trem,ely unsettle,! 
ron.litions iniluced by the War naturally render the calling of th.i convention at a.i early date, out of the 
iiuestion. On the other hand, I an. not encountering the slightest disposition on the part ol the citiicns 
to think th Ihc propaganda itself is premature. We are letting our play on ne.t spring as a 
possible tini, lor the gathering. On the supposition that your return to England via Canada would bo 
conside.atyly in advance of any possible date lor the Congress, a series ol liy yoursell 
before Canadian Clubs an.l su.h organizations in which you would speak either directly on the project 
or 00 themes that would converge in that .lirection, would no doubt im ol great value in 
the country of the slips that wen' being taken to lay the basis f 
say that in conversation the oth. r day with the Hon. Dr. Cody, recently named Minister ol Education 
for Ontario he is, hy the way, piobably the most distinguished Anglican clergyman in Ontario, and 
,s not rilmeoishinQ, for the moment, at any rate, the Rectorship ol St. Paul's, this 
on me gr.'al advantage ,1 wouin lir lu him pt-.sonally to he .-b!e to .ensult wilh you on e.lii 
generally, I am su, 1 this is only an indication ol the inl.iresl that would attach itself to yoi 

through Canada. 


. national n'.ovL'nient. I may 

ly. Hn commonted 


Mr W J, Biittrun, t'lr iriiliatdr (tf Ihf t:tnfi'r(rft' .dra. has JU^t I'fTt .■!.■( tfil P.rsi.lfnl .il titr 
Cjtij.Ka" Mar itta. Inn rs' AsMitalmn Of ((.ursi- Ihis (as nothing to do ^.illi our [rroj-'it. t.ul it wii! 
antiiaict voii ot tlir lait tliat tlir ir.ari »liu pioniotfii Ihii iili a in now in a vtoy iirnininoiit poMtion, 
Thf Coniiiittti'f wmilil thirk your rotorn via Canada wi'll worth wliilii as a [ircltrnrnary strii, in advarro! 
ol tlio I'onli'r.rii.'; it wtiolil ilo its lii'Sl lo fai ihtalo awitoitiati' ausimrs lor yoor arlilr..ssis. ami would. 

ol I ours.-. !»■ r.soonsilili' lor art iM-i'nsrr inrurnil Liy you. Should this r<,aih you in Itmi', and 

I tio willinii to accfdo to thl3 suuyi'^lion, kindly lalilo ■ Winni[H'(J. Canada." 

Viry truly yrrurs. 


should you t 

Thii two rriiorts th. ■ I am ah 
Mr. W- J. Bolnian. as a r.sult ol a 

I hflvr; now visilod Ciorlph an 
oridutiinary (rvnlencc 

ul to » 
wiro Ire 


Totonlo whorti I havo 

I to r 


I Gall, two rifirrrr r.laliv towns ol Wcsttirn Ontario. Thii 
thai Ontario is lolly tr-aily for out inopaijanda. I was told hy one ijontlpman 
n Toroolo that Ontario rould not tin roused in this regard, but the reeeplion uivcn to our iilea in these 
first M places has tiien at least eoual to thai ae.oided in the Marilimo Provinri'S. My mi'etiog in 
the ease ol liotli Ouelph and Call elashod unavoidahly with important nvetings in thi'se towns, so mat 
their success is B«en more noteworthy under the circumstances. Since my time is limiteil il I am lo 
succeed in doing the Western Provinces as well as Ontario this sumnii-r. I have' t. take the responsi- 
bility ol cioing on with n.y meeting in a given town evin if the night sr'Icctcil proviis lo he, for some 
reason, not the most auspicious. At Ooelph. the Hamilton Conference of the Methodist Church was in 
session, and on the nighl chosen lor the formation ol the grci there, it turni-d out, too late for us to 
change, that the Premier ol Ontario, Sir Wm. Hearst, was to spiak. Naturally, this was an event ol 
importance in Ihe city. In ol this, 18 gentlemen responded to our call. The oecurince of the 
Conference was an advantafio in Ihis sense, that I was able to renew accuaintances with many 
Methodist ministers whom I know. This will help me laler. Thus il turns out that I know intimately, 
not less than si« Methodist clergymen, whom I shall find residing in Hamilton. This will lacilitate 
my work in that city. At Call, after our ehoicc of an evening had liei-n made, it was announced that 
Lieot.-Colonel McKendrick- a brother of two leading citizens ol the city- would that evening address 
the niemhe;s of the Gait Club, which there does the work of our Canadian Club. Again, in spile oi 
this unavoidable clash, 21 cjcnllemen respon.led to the invitation ol the Mayor. I should have said 
earlier thai the introductions I am carryirig Sir John Wilhson and Rev. S. D. Chown. arc 
rendering me the greatest assistance. 

I shall add two or three general impressions of a preliminary sort. !■ il the opericnce of 
Gall am! Guelph continue to be duplicated I can anticipate thai the clergymen ol Ontario are going to 
prove ol great assistance to me. 2 A leaturo of these Iwo meetings has been the O'eal cordiality 
ol the prolossional school-mcn. They have been piesenl in larger numbers in these two moelings than 
they were in the meidiegs in the maritime provinces, and every one ol them has been notably favorable. 
3, The meetings have been gratifyingly insistent upon defin'te organiialion ol groups, 
two places Iheie was a lormal organization of groups, 
with whom subsequent communication is to be held. 

each ol the 
vith one excellent man rhoscn as chairman. 


Hi. .Ill' tlir 

suUnt S.f F^n 
|r. .11 
,t lnii.i (n tti 

It *ill In- *rll tor nu- 
Pn,v,.ii.' (it (Idljnu- First I 
,il till' TuroMi) Pulilc Lilirdrv, H <iil. <m 
Catutlj (in tlir ni.M' JS ■> ''Jtinn, jml v 
trijt.''t 'tic *itli (I' ' J"il n-i 

|,.|tif .ItW'S -It MM'IS In t.i.> tlut tt 

imiKtrtan..-. Jn.l m thi« vi.-w. I am sui 

turn ■■ From the H.s<. Dr. S D Chowo. 1 alsn scrurnl , 

-I am fiur.' you will !>.• gmatly intrr,.str.l m Prof. Ostion 

Tindi'to |ir 
,rt FjImimvi 
1^ Dr Ina 



1 t(i I iti/rl 

III th.> Pr 

rii()VITi;rrit in *hiitl Prof, Hslm 

you *<ll agffp. whi'n you hau' hat) ommrtunitv to talk ' 
irttroduition vitmti i losrs with tins si 
i futilanatioti nf this movnnnmt wlm t 

Sif Jdhri W'llison 

ul i 

j[ lo all [.atr.otu Catiadiar.s as very itii|io<tant an.l o(.|.ortuni' 
„u|ip.MU out a iirovisional itinnrury. Wo selrftiul tw.ilvr typn ntJ 
This was (orrnvr.l on a l)as.5 of R.« w.'.-ks tor Ontario, with an 

' Cr. Chown also assisti'il nn- "i 
s in Wi-st.'.- am! Easti-rn Ontario, 
ivi'raytt of two iitus a wm-k My 

,.,„„. ,l,„ «,».k ,ho«s thai t... >» ■ ' '»»•■' '" ■' «■■'•!'■ ""'■'" «"■""''"» •"" •■«'-l>l«"'iill» 

,„„,a„l,., I had th,. a,.,B ol a nml ..,.„., U;.-^ *.IH U,. Hon. Dr, C„ly, .ho n,.,l»-na 

M,n„l,., of E.fural.on, who ,. .ho,ou«hly .,..o,„„nl a, lo Ih. 0. „0, mov.m th,ou„h A,rhh„h„„,.,on. Wh,lo I *a, ,„ To.onlo , *.« a,r,r g.^nrroo, ,.t..,vi,.w» l.y Ih- tllobo, Ih,. Ma,l ao.l and ll» Worl.l, *hi, h lo-th« s.'rv.»l as int.odu, lions to Ihn Pro.rn,,., I .onfmp.M.. 

s,.,.,„g th,. ..vonmy papnrs wh.l.- I am m Toronto lh„ ton,.. In .1. I r.-aliin that thf pa„..,s .a.i h.- of 

th„ o,nat,ist assistance to os, and I shall k,.,.„ a con„.l,t.- list ol .liopinus. II my rxpr-irnin ol th. 
past yyn'k rontinois. I can appan-ntly roont on lordial co-op.iration l-om Ihn Pniss. Th„ Gorlph H.-alii 
and th,. Goi-lph M,.-fL y havo ooth publishiid th„)p-iuart,ir rolunin mt,.,.in*s, nach ol thrm adding 
an pditotial. Thr Oal: Ri^port.-r puhlishod a hall-.,olumn intervi.'*. suppl™« nfd hy a tolumn-and-a-hall 
rnpo.l ol tho Gall O-ganiialion mppting all ol thren conspicuously la.oralil.. It is ... ndlrss to po.nt 
out *hat an auxiMaty this will h.i in tho crcat.on ol puhlic opinion, 

Bnlot.. I.iaying Toronto I saw W, L. Cant, thi. n.,wlv-appoint..d p..... .pal ol Up,..r Collcg,., 

Ho was cor,l.ality .tsoK to mc. and to tho .nc-mont. and p,oH..-.-.l all tho assisMnco .n h.s |«w.T, 

A, p,oc..d„nls lor tho su9g,..o.l [!o„.= -. ol E.lo.alio... ho oi.o.l tho Un.fd Stah.s Con,m....on, or Board 

ol Educahon and tho Carn.g.o Foondat.on, to tho ..illorcnt oontont and n,ak,.ap ol prosonl 
Roa, ho said ...■ -as .■ thorn Irom tho work ol h.s Proparalory School,, thoro- 
loro tho ch,.ap an: prccorahlo od.t.o..s ol standar.l l.toratoro, such as "Maraulay-s Lays.'' and 
tho Novols ol Scott. Ho yoluntnorod tho omphalic opinion thai tho National Conloron... shool.l ho hnl.f 
.n Winnipeg. 1 oHorod no observations in this hoad. in on Sunday. I at o.ico saw Roy. Mr. Pearson of th,. Norlolk St. M.-lhoihsl 
Church. Ro, H B. Chr,st,o ol tho Dun.las SI. Church; Roy, H. E. Ahraham, M.n.stor of 
th,. Pr,.sl,ytorian Church ol St. Andrews, an.l Mr. W.lliam Tyllcr, School Inspector. By all thcs,. I was 
„.„.iv,.,l with much cordiality, tho ai,l ol those g,.ntl,.mon a list of si.ty-throe riprosontalivo 
citizens was p„.parod. Tho school authorilios, through Mr. Tytl,.r, Pr..,c.pal Young and Mr. Coon.bes, 
Con> Mast,.r, kin.ll, olfen.d to typ,. th,. call to a moeting. It was aor,.,.d that Mr. J. W. Lyon, 
P,„i,lent ol the Ontario Hydro-Eloctric Association ol Ontario, woul.l ho a most suilablo person to ,ssuo 
tho call. I found Mr. I yon at the Priory Club, and alter tho mo«ement ha,l boon warmly O.K. d by 
Mr. Tytlor. ho cordially consented to sign the call and preside at the meeting which was to tako 
place al the Y M.C.A., where an admirable room was placed at our disposition 

To tho 63 inyitations 63 gentlemen responded. I n,ay say that this week I ha. e been confronted 
by the following attracl.ons: the sessions of tho Hamilton Conference m Ccelph ; th, a.ld.ess ol S.r 
VV. .,m He-".t on the night chosen lor tho Guelph meeting; the address ol L.oot-Col, 

> I ,jlt nvin>Hij Jiwl Ihi ti'»Mrr« tti 
tdt , Ihii Lml rijtuiJlly i-t on'jt mti 

!,.■ .,< l-,il.llih, a .itv l.t I'l.Dl^', Jri,l 
. ti" tH I" I "11 - ri Irr f<||.< 

..rtuti'ly th.' !.iM.f M/f ,i!s ri«i''l|il', 

. Nt til 

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<t>il nyt r liy 

Ul ('.(ItKinAH Jl 

fi-IV s.,ti'.f.Mt.,ry |j<i< 

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>rar» .)».- rrcini Ihr US, |.y Ihf 
'FMlly (»i.(tiU''<l Uitlay. Thn ijufsti 
w unilf r lonti'irpUdon kNiuIiI t><^ 
iiudiiijl iHmI It 


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<>t Cii'i 

rn .<..-i..t,i li. ('a 

ti.tiijtmn IS not 1 

viUl, Thit niuvi'HiiMit now un.l. r .onti 

>[« Iviil-riQ Ihi' univnsitivB, Witness tl'r 

lilt hduKil-Uiohi of tt"i Uniti'il Statis 

Your frptratittJtivf^ spohn alwiit jn twiiiF, 
Thr (liaini^an tt en lall'-il nn omtli men iirt-in «it as lulliiws 
Mr. Wni. Tytl.r Sdiool Innpritor "I f'ay.- listmr.l *illi U 
Hi-arl and Soul with thr wMi- nicv.n,. nt. ) f-Jvi Lrrn wna.t.l.' t«i 
thcuut.Hul 'VH>^ icnn.^.tr.l *>ih I'lr sdim,lR .an dut,l»t ttir i.rr.l nf ir 
s(„rit, tatfictisr.., ^Hl-sa. r,f ,.■. W- 'l'[--n.l t.., ..»U.s.vHy iip<.n cui 
systrmali. .n tN, .i,r.. Imn mrt.-.; --I by th.8 moyrm.-nt. TM 
Wr M.v,!,t li-'ml fv.Ty .■Hoi. to iniloitrir,. ^.th thr ronvittion that tru.' 
malrnal. It w.l! li.: a um-M joy to me ir ihis moymnrt sue..'. .Is.- 

Ol.l.'St mrmbrr ot City Srhool Btiar.l : ••^^\>- '-njoyi''! 1"<'S' ntatmn v.'.y riui.h. 
,.,liKat>(.'Ml sy.l.m *js (m..lm ing tN' .t!a.:».tfr ri'sults Hat Bhoul.I 


r t.Mihfi 



ht atiil atl 



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s li|i()n "1 

II ii.lS l«'l' 

n l.ttli' 


ilil 1. 

, tfoin th 

IS to'Wi 


Ill li 

(.' (S not 


Dr. MrKinnO'. 
Hav.. Icinn f*'lt that no |;.1ft of (!Ui 

■ fni 


.rsljt..! th.. tiri-.t. whrri iharaiti-r imiirrss.orlB can really 

in till' 
rnii'nt v 

lools. Woolil 

linior of Canaiia than 
Tlifl Dominion 

liR ar.tiM.vt:(l. Our Roman|.fil 
hii pfintt'd on lM.i.i " 

Jamos Davidson PniK.nal Goll..iliat|. Inslitul I hav I..'." W ya 

havn said hnforo I lamo to tlii« mii.tino tnal th.' ol>).it ,il l.y dm "« 
I should net like to say that now." 

D. Youna Principal, Pulilic Sc.iools: . "No morn hnp.dil smn fo. Dor 
thai vvi. havo mn of this ralihrc thinkinfl of these thinijs, and iilannmij for thrm 
Eduialional Association has thouaht much of incnaiing Iho National tha.a. fr of ndiiralioo, hut lack 
„, hack.nrj and lack of finanu., has madn it. 'nfforts impotent. V.. have taucjht m thn schools thn 
material a.oatness of Britain the son nn.n,' and so on hut not sul.,nently that he, chief 

asset is the mora als of tho British race. Glad to do anything I can 10 help." 

R L Torrance l^anaoer, Royal Bank : "Clad to,.ss app.,., lation of, and lo offer ass.stam e 
t„ ,h,. Klea Great thihos can he achieved hy the deliberate shaping of patriotism, heroism, citizenship. 
Not a mo»,. of an eyelid escapes the child. Ho« .n>po.tant th,.n that such a plastic thing as a child is, 

should h,. surrounde the hiflhest of influences. Place to upbuild thn real Canada is ,n the K^hool. 

WouM like to see the whole group present, ple.lge itself to the movement in this ..eabty 
.Mr. Torrance was later made ihairman of the local group. 
Bank of Cin-i-rrii.. ml n-inli r of School Board.: "Hearbly in sympathy 

ar..l bring about its success. 

J. f^. DuH fVlana^er 

r..ol II..' frst lin,. I hcve 

P.v. H. E Mii 
g.. A asSiKt-r.i'.. in I 'i parii'!] le-t 
sympathy. It must be lememlie 
Morality (annct be cceuired by of this N;cye in right din .ton. aid will be glad lo supporb" 

Miiiisler el El. Amiiew's P.i stiyl,;iiJn Ohuiih >'.ho had been of such 

li.,l : -Sliould be taken for granted that eve.y clrrgy 

i, however, that n.oiality cannot stand .lion... 11 

les Motivr. must b.. inculcated." 


will he m 
ist b.. motive.l 


. r>.r>l. Th.. 

Witr hjn 

i<h t^U-»K',\ 

Miv [)> l),'f.h>'i P.i-lnf, Baptist Chiirit "Mjv |,v< >l in jlrroiil all i>arM iit rdn,i<l, 

imtMt Mr Aln,th,iFi>^ tij* « Y(Hi (.trmnf uin j «trdni rr *(th h r-Wiitiir. An- >[iinjhti< 

thr*.. W.^t. iti n.r.i f-a^. ijnl |tn» iil<'4 Tl-' tjM jt tluny li,i |li,. . lUit jt'iiiul -LyMxn In mi .1 
J ' I |h,nl» It;r%f iv. m ar.- nf. tfir i,.(ht l.rr '■ 

J M Tayliii Prm'.nf. T.iyi<n-F(irl tn Mlfi t « I Imv"! <• t.i li t itr M <iiv' t.j il 

Ol tlmig. My duly *ill If In (n' iinn nt Ihi' nfi* H» ii,rtr.rH.I> tdf iirtiAs nf *jr tii y. I rn. 
.■mitii-dl lniar.t " Thii ri'»l tinrriniy I iatl*'<) tin Mt. TayfiiF al 
liir Iht' oi'i'MRi'ii iiu iilrntal In Ihc ('(infritTnf . 

P K"r«ii* Cltholii' Barnil.-* "Ntithih.) t>» .iM I m ' 

Natinnat IiUm*. 1 ihtrk thai .tiulil !.«■ ^ii hn vnl Will Iw n'.nl 
A E Cxt'Min Mar;tgrr, D<'r><iritiiti Bark "I'Uit to do 

J MiN Cull, IniiMiilr Staff ■I" Ji.nfd *illi n iv 

iinit>.ri(i rl(.'. I. Ttiis f-th, n:v wmit'l dci Si'Hf i" tirti.-s of i- .:'!■ 
Pfi.f. M(L-nruM (:Mta"ii A|(.in,ltii'al Coll. ur ■V. ry r 
whifh I tiavi' i|ivt'n rnui li lhtju(|tit t >." 

In d.ld.tiiin tu lliniif wl-tim I havi' cur.ti'tl. thirr vyi-fr jncicnt 
Jnhii D.ividKMi, MarJilt'f. W' Hirglun MhIljjI Fm- ln». Co, 
Mf. H(Hi(>.f. ftiM. Irst, RIaft lotrtirr'y rif K. Ivm Coll, t.'sl , Wl>i). 

Mr, A. E. S(i,ilfi, Edittf. Cu»'l^^^ Hrritil Mr, Sriith '!iil not ajwak at mct^lird, hut his (tapir 
ot thi' nciit day rofildifird a 'nil ard lonJtal n-poft ol mfltiling, BuwilrrTutr;!!"! 
hy an admirahlc cditofial 

Mi'inhcr Srhool Board anil of Trail is and L-iliof Coundl, 

;hc rT'ictir'i|, M', Lyrn, tf;i' ■ hjiririan, prr.iio^rd lha( the ri.irtin) ■ipprnvi^ 
; lliat Mr. Torranif. MarniiiT i ,' thr Ri,>.d Bank, act as rhairrran ol Btou[i, 
and that those iirrscnt picddr thcrTisrlvfS t'> form i'n onjannatioti Ifi [jron'Oto thii idea. This was 
liassi'd Litianimoiislv. Later rrrvrrsation shcwfid vrry dearly that Mr. Torrance wdl inlerrst hiniS'df 
artivi^ly m our ?••' '■ '-nt w>rrk. 

nf- to wdcni tl;i' Guclph lalt was sent. I also (!ni:l(is« 

■■Ciui'lph Puhlic Srhools. 

C.uftph, Old,, May 3IM. 1918. 
■Diar P'of Oshrrne 

"I wu-- -'irry not I') h.ivr thp p!e;iM>ff: of seeing you today, and I crclosr the list of mm 
invited to (''•■ meeting. 

"I have seen a good many of these prt-strnt list night, and I find every one nuite delighted wdh 
your splendid address, and erdhusiastic (iver the si.henw' whieh you so elo<iuintly and at)ly presented, 
t hope this enthufuism will not I'e allowed to cool mon than is meydahle in all such fases, even if 
wr, have not 'dogma' to supply the motive iwwtr 

"I trust that the spirit displayod '<> Guelph i .-n thouijh our numhers were, small may ptove 
to t)e an augury ol what you will fnil and arunst m lln i,thei jilites you visd in Ontai.o- I am 
thoroughly convinced that it will. 

•With the heartiest good wishes f'T your continued success, 

Truly yours. 


Wm. Dr< V 

F, Berkwi 

At the contlus 

di a of a Ccnferi 

I shall I 

the hit i.f ft-e 63 pel! 
ne today 'fom Mr. Wi 

Havini) .irrarKit'll the (."lUilph 
,|,F lu S. .urr iUfflu'il thrrc fiv 
,t.T of Kilox Pr.'SliyliTiJri Chui 

ti A L T 

nr.limi for Thursildy fvi'nmq, I [iroc*'fil<>il. nn Tu.'Mlay, to Gait, 
Fm^Ijv '■v.'iiint). I lullfil dl urui- un Iht! Hrv. Dr. J. Knr Fras(;r, 
h, rtli. assisti'-l iH' m inakitig a (onuirrhcnsivit list of cittziins, 
vvliiih wjs Ul.T a.l.lril to l>y Mr. Barn.'s. Srcrrlary <jt th,. Y.M.CA.; Mr. Clumirry. Principal of th.i 
C» Lv His Worship. M.i>nr Dakiri. Titc S.-< rrtary of tti.i Y.M.CA, placed a room at my 
ttisiHisal. Iiut as th.- Mayut was ijoo.l rriouHh to otf-T thr us.- of thr City Council Cfiambfr, wt) acc.-t.t.-'J Till' Prin.itial of th<' Collciiiatr ronscntrd to have tht- Conimrrnal Dopt. <fc thtt typinji, thr Mayor 
su<i!ii'Slfil using His oft.cial paptu, and cordially agr.-cd to sig.i tlir lall. The .'.litor of tho Daily Ri'porti'f 
nuuir Ihf announcmrnt of thd mrcling in an intrrvirw n) ov.'f half a column, ami sent a r.-porli^r 
to the meeting, whii h wa3 adm.ralily repofti'd in a column-an.l-a-half, I fmd that hy comcidenco G3 
persons wen* inviteil to tiotti meetings at Gait and Guelph. 

As I hnve already indicated, the. riash with Lieut-Col, McKendrick's addrnss was rpgr(!ttable, 
tuit it cindd rot he avoided. To ttie Mayor's invitation to the meeting in the Council Chamt)er, out ot 
63 (jentlemiT, 61 responded. Two ladies wnre also present wtiosf names I was not fortunatti enough 
to secure. His WDrshi(i, Mayor Dakin, hat) consented readdy to preside, but. on returning to Gait 
on Friday. I learned that he had lieen called out of town to a consultation with the Food Controller, 
Alderman Dr. Charllon presided most sympathetically over the meeting. Of the 21 gentlemen present, 
eight were te.ichers in the Institute and the Public Schools. All representing the latter, I think, weiu 

After my presentat'on, tontribution was made as follows: 

John Hancock 'Barrister; Chairn-an of School Board : "Prof. Osborne has referred to effect 
Bureau of Ed.-iation would exert on status and salaries of ttachers. Salaries paid are regrettably 
small. Rut take the case of Gait, Gait spends $50,000 per annum on her schools. The Governnu^nt 
grant is $1,300. We ran make ourselves what we want to be, as Germany has. The amount the 
Government is having to nubtly spend today on destruction, should show us what Governments should 
be preparei' , > pay for the constructive work of education in of peace. Address has moved along 
lines on which 1 h.tve thought much. The secret of disinterested public service lies in education. We 
must makt; delitierato campaign against materialism in views of life. We should bo prepared to join 
with our friends in the West." Mr. Hanio(k was later unanimously chosen as head of the Gait 
group. Callinij at his of< i e thi! next riHirnmy, I reieived further excellent assistance from Mr. Hancock. 
He gave me introductions to tertain gentUn.en m Hamilton, and made some good suggestions with 
resped to organization. He said; 'Hold the conference, appoint a permanent committee, then go out 
and form branch organizations all through the Dominion, through Boards of Trade and so on,". 

Mr. Gi:ndery Pfinn|)al, Collegiate Institute ; -Delighted with suggestion of National Bureau. 
The U.S. have well eeuipped Bureau which has rendered inestimable service. It sends men to different 
countries to make investigations This means a constant flow of vital ideas. We have nothing of the 
sort here. At! the educational research in Canada is done by men wlio are earning their living aside 
from this. Result; Our Canadian Literature .Educational is extremely m.agre. I have no doubt 
great national impetus would (ome from this plan." 


, J. Kei 


"We are all ready to endorse and support. 

Scheme should be 

mto a group to support the Wii 

Th^l tl^fe Merting approve the Oer-rra! Principlr, ar.d fnrm itself 
n:('eg plan." It was then tarried unanimously that Mr Hancock act 

and as link of comn'unication. 

Or, Haitford Ex-m,ivor . "I have (jrrat ;ilfasurf m I'mlorsini) tlir idi as am, r, als ;)frsrnlr.l, 
..■(■ must !!!' fully miluilcl. yu-lui shDul.l {»■ v.armiy invilnl to p.utM ipuli." 

n[ial, Vntor Piit'lii Si I nnl "HiM'tv syttipatHy Ci-iat i|(H»l rr, v rrsuU. Wf 

Mr. Linton 


Stand m ['-.ui h (!.if>iji 

should !"■ imtu I witti thf K-Rt. 

Hcafty sv-npathy *Mlfi rvrythmi] 

D. A. Barrn-s Sn rrtafy, Y.M.C.A 
yivi' Imys and yirls thr national out'i-ol 
W(> all want i^ an Canaila. I I 

lalisni and si i tioFuliSfH. !- 
OljrhiT must Iv lr»1 to I." 
aid tiy Prof. OsUtrm'. Th. 

Monr Stioulil (JO into Curl n , and «t 
al (I'"' wdfi tlif nnianili r of Canada. 
ci hcn^r 'S a i.iranil (jni' " 

■ Ct-iidhocKl IS thr (.'astr' linir t.n at Viim] if y 
1' "hi-uld put Canaila m a most rnviuti!-' [msition. 
.rtily I rulofsr tins riirssatjr." 

D. S. MrPhrrson ■ Principal. Crrtral Ethool ; "I sco n'Oro clt-arly tlian rvrr hctom, thf truth 
of the [lulurt! of Germany prfsrntcd l-y Prof. C sLornr Eftcirrcy tirought alioul tiy Education with 
a wronii National ob|iTtivf. I somrtimrs think wt; aif tallmd dovtn non; in our honors than in our 
srhools. Still. I hrartily I'ndorsr plan, and hope Coiifrrrmf will tr railed, end tf-at Calt will lip well 
rrpresenlrd. I (in not tn>lirvi' tfnt t^ooks tcd„y arc trgual to those of 20 years ago," 

D, Nairn Prinuiial. Dixon Srh'^ol ; "Sihools do not (jcl Lai king from hun'i'S we ilid 2fj years 
ago. Greatly m sympatliy with whoh ..lea. National Bureau would raise status ot Eduration.'' 

J. L. Daniels Pnnuial, Mam hi s* Si hcol ; "I take aw.iy liom this n.erting revivrd interest 
in prot)lcms of eduiation, \A.hat I have e)iiH-rien(ed m this way tcnight may t>e taken as a suiigestion 
of what would bv. arcomiilished on a National si ale hy a Butrau of Education." 

Dr. BiKl'anan Member of Collegiate Institute Board : "I hail not tde faintest intention of staying 
at tins n.e, ting. Dr. Buchanan was expected to attend a meetimj of the Board occurring at the 
moment in th.e Fame huildtng . The presentation of the case has I'cen fascinating. The task is st'Ji^en- 
(lous. but inspiring. It couldn't lie done, so they did it." 

In addition lo those speaking, thc^e 
J. M. McKay 
G. P. Keyes 
J. C. Allhousr 
J. H. Wilson 

were present: 
Coll. Inst. Staff. 
Coll. Inst. StaH. 
Coll. Inst. Staff. 
Merchant £i hool Trustee 

Rev. W. H. Snelyrove Rei tor, Arylican Churcli : Mr. Sr'eigrove did not speak, hut I saw hii'i 
next mormmj. He said: "I went to that meeting, just out of i curtesy to the Mayor 1 (jet so many 
(alls for things tl:at prove of no importance. I expected just to put m an ^arance and leave. 


I (onfess I was greatly impressed 
War. Ill IV 

' Manufacturer and 
■om he sat, told me i 

I said lo myself, 'Here is a real . 

emtier of School Bo^inl : Mr. Van 
lext morning he had hi en niui h inti 

■ig Idea. 

did net :--peak, hut Mr. 

Mr, John McKenili 

wl'.cse brother was address. ng tlie Gall Clui>, sent a lettiT of regret, 

img I 


The lollowmg morning 1 had a half-hour's interview Aith Mr. A. R, Goldie, of ttin 
firm of Goldie & McCulloch. He said: ■'Certainly something needs to he done re stressing charatti r 
and citizenship. Whether your plan is the right one or not, remai 
ht(,!die-2 thrnurjh siiucation. he mad" spenal 
School of Ridley Colltige, St. Catherines. 

I be seen." Anent character 
ire to H. C. Grittilh, Heailniastt^r of the Upper 


, M..> 


^:i8 .it'll 

, EmI. MufHlLlillir. 

as fi.Hln 

ir; shoi.lil In' 
cf J D. ni(,( I 

l'.irt (Jf tlu- 

. of lii,s.MS¥ rtit-n. I jtii 
ilLiriifinii.' 11 ciluiatton ijut 
. I tpjnsfo'ii.iitiun. TIk' 
frri\ NiitiCiial Buri'ju of 
don't want to 


tins CtiftfiTrnrr' 

would FiTvi' J !i"'" lujrpi,^.' 
vill (iu far to picilLKf llni f^v-i 

;i|ljrtishl|> * 

D.itr Junr 7th. 
Pliu.' Board Room, City H.ill 
N'f'.tirg ra;;.'(t l>y His Wofi 

time nivin'i to Cnrmitti'i's. 

Dhoscn to prcsidr (itmiif ^"1 L 
?? iirrsrnt 

Afl'T ari iKiiir's ptrsmtutinii. I'pi 
Dr. Sikoi Prn;.i'»al. Nonr.i! S. hwil : "Mi 
hprn just to (jivf moral su['r<"t- 'Tli'' '■''■t liusxi 
rifiht. all will flO rioht, BtiEini'ss n.rn (.f thr D- n 

hands of prnfi'ssional school rrian sorrrwhiit tied, i'ut husini'ss fitizi-ns an- frri\ 
Education i3 to my mind the only w.iy to huifd uf a naliun-widtt Conscioiisnrss. 
educate Ontano or Stratford as bin h, l,yt Canada and Hir ti 
IS held, ni he Ihfft*. if I have to walk there I ■' 

Mr. Greer .Normal Sihool : "N'aliorial Bureau would 
Mr, Martin Normal Si honi : '-Tins (Moposul 
need. Will be qlail lo do anythtnu iti ny power." 

AlexamU-r Fisher E» ilMinviin, SVhrol Bcaril : "Very nuuh im|i'essed w 
pretty Utopian. But we should he mis^ny much in Germany's example it we di 
her lessons as to ' .-aluo t.f method. I don't see why the British mind can't surree<l along Imes 
of method as well i. the TfuK^nif, Of course li goes without saymq our s^'it anti ohjective must I. 
different. The goal described is far off. hut should be aimed at. To .>(eak or a 'cw level the r.i:vi" 
ment f'f Canada involved in th^s idea would do Carat!a a great dea. t-l gncd. t-t (ourse it shouldn't 
be done for advertisement, hut the spertarle offered to the world would attr.-.a a ijreat deal of 
attention to Caraila. I'll he ylad to do all I ran." 

Rev. Dr. L. S. Hughson iE»|tist : "National Convention a licod tli'iiii. At the same lime we 
should not aim at a deadenmy unifimiity. Danger in any system is that il n-iyht repress freedom 
or individuality. In view of our (.onlitions a National Convention is, in my judiimeni, almost a 

Rev. W, Cluft Anglnan , "Best asset is unself shmss. Th 
ness 18 eriucation. I am wondering hew the prolilem can t.e solvei 
Asked; "Should we regard ph^se of the question as iiisoluble- 
insoluble, but dehcate." 

Rev. Findlay Matheson Pieshytenan . "To my n;ii-ii. no il 

net take to heart 

^iy to 

tai t National selfish- 
tie a iliff cully," 

lUht ahuut (jreatnrss of ide: 


how delaiis can he worked out I tio not (;uile knew. The u'l al is a (jreat one. urjfl (he Convention 
itself, if nothh.g more ensued, woulij be a great national gam " 

R(v. Arthur Hale 1 Baptist . ' h:ea of elimin.'.ting self.shness a good or-r. Of course we have 
a great many convenlions alrei'c'y Churth, Educational .ii'd tiu on. If they <lon't succeed, how can one 
great convention?" Inlerruptu r !rom Dr. Sit(ox; "Putii.i. don't listen lu us proti^ssional ppopW). This 
would be a convention of citizens as sucli."i 

Have this name m not.!;. Hay. In original liRts have t/.<. Ada:-. Kay, Postmaster, and Rev. 
Arthur Hale. I am, perhaps, confuseii as to identity here. 

H. H. Smith (School IrKpedcr. : "Very (ilfased to have heard id. a. Address has dealt with 
mar^y things that have lurked in my mind for ?0 years Tlie ide.i ef n aking hoys and girls of Canada 
known throughout world as splendid types of manhood and wurTur^'iooil is magnificent. Teachers are 



■1 not listi'in'il tf). M.ili'nal ilvvcloi'tt-fil 

«r Ar 


rjllv I1.IVI- ihut S.iV. II VNhI lif .1 -| 



in wrrkini) (iiit 3 iirrjt rMlinr'.il I' n 


tirss mm. wr findti'l ^'•u\ a i|ri .m n 

Mill * 


."HtHt (/rill iiii|iri)vin'cnls. It will !'>■ i; 

'.ilul 1 

Mt, MaUnli;i C.ill.'gMtf l"st Stafi 


ir.T tiaa maH(> it that heads o( a^'at lonoirna 
»n' i,»ii (jet (o-t [It mlitJ'i t'f tra, hiTs ant) huSiiii-ss 
,r. It wf tan ■■rilist synn.jihi.'S ot outstamliny 
I.,- .iihi.vMl. ( I'vl (lass hratiis. thinking logi'thn 
I if wi' ill visr J liljri t:i tiiiilil a hi[ih typv of 


or has I 
»*as a T 

nn why 

Many ailiT.iMS trnclini) Idvw.imIs i|< 

vinudl; liuiM'vfi that is now s.ttl 

whi.d wru'i'l play on National uinRc.ioiJsr.cRR, Prof, Oshotnn has itfcffnl to Ihi 

on Ihr I'.l.l I '.a.l toUl of a rot.' fouml m thr pocket of a .Icail Pfin. h youth 

T/vrt-il iifourni wiy lomiirrh.Tisivly. 
slaki- Hat out ciliJiation was mailc pro- 
Mi- sliniilil not h.ivr a National Burttau, 

ron( h lie, found dtiaif 
the prrM'nt war. 


to fiis Mnthn 
Ut mil fit- 
'Hurry mi. or you'll rlif- 
hi wa: 
!ir..ul I 

^ lo 'lit' lor t)i-lovi'<l 
alltil to t>y a romratle: 

' pointint) to a Mdplc L<'uf haflgu 
nation urn I"' U"'-*' ""'V Ihrougfi 
) glad this rnovrmi'dt lias 

Oil I (I'ay ho hrllcr so thai I may \>i- 
ahoiit a Catiailian l>ov at Paardot'irn. Hr 
If I iiic. it will help to mako Ihis I 
rinij. Oi'tiing torjethrr will (Uwlop nalionahf-ni. The i 
ifiil wurii.Ti. Thiy lan Ur niacr jjn'at only liy I'.lucatic 
IS liounil to aicomplisti nnnh." 
H, S. Rohrrtson Firm of Mi Lagan Mfg. Co, : "Prof. Osliornr has oprf<:d up virw ul possi- 
liilitiis, Nulionai Convention would h.'lp in working out details. It will Ix^ hard.-r to work out a groat 
spiritual idral liko this, than Oormany"s material ideal, 1 think, mys.-lf. that iMlucation should bo madn 
more prailiral. Education is too muih dominated liy tlio purrly cultural idea of Ihe Univors.ily. Trade 
and tfchnical education shouM he lakm up at tho same time. Address has opertd up vistas to n e, 
and I am much pleased, 

Mr, Gillies Manual Tram.mj StaH , 'Much impressed Time npn. Altruism Unselfishm'ss 
that's what I lil<e ahout this srh,-me, I am persuadod that practical Christian citizenship, ttie unselfish 
attitude, will onahle UR to ji;in hands with <v'uetiec, 1 like the idea of plain citizens as such, takmj 
tiold of this (jreal Idea " 

Mr. McMillan Coll. Irst. Staff i: "Listened with ptuasurr, and think idea right at th.s tine. 
Canada tias been drifting into materialism, and a movement like tins comes apropos. Too many of 
our good agencies are working too isolatedly. I like the National idea in ttns." 

Mr. Ti'iiih Manual Trainins StaHi: "Ground covered most thoroughly, Schools should I"' 
utilized m this way. I tike the idea of ro-operation tietween husiress citizens and professional edi.i ./.nrs 
111 this qreat work. We each can learn from each other, and help each other. I helieve a Convention 
and a Bureau would he yood things. Convention woi.ld secure attenticn as nothing elre could. 

C. A. Maytieiiy R'nonpal, Colligate Inst, . "Thoroughly in faur of idea, invention would 
In' a gnat thing. Inspiratior- is the grand force. I would giv^ more for a man who i an inspire 
auilietiu; for ten minutes than for any system. Prof. Ostiorno has sln,.%; us what we know, that 
the gii;at thing in eilui ation is the Person, the Teai her. Any system of education that tramps person- 
ality IS poor. The presence of men like Sadler would lie a ticnediction to tjoys ami gels all over the 
country. I rejoiie in acpointmerd of Cody as illustration of this principle. Thoroughly in .accord with 
this idea. Let us form this local group; let us keep m close touch with the Winnipeg Committee. Ttie 
tea,.her is the school. Let l-s make great teachers, and we shall tiave groat citizens." 

H. W- Strudeley Rattan Manufacturer : "Almost hate word eff.ciency, but think method essential 
in order to liuild great na'ion. Teaching profession and business community should work band-in-liand. 
Ninety per tent, of us working (or No. One. This is the standard we should tr^ to cut out. I am 
warmly m sympathy. I>ecause the t*est education is the cheapest. I hope Convention will succeed." 




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!;0(iil I ill/rt-Nfiiit Cl.jnmj Hc'isr llil 

jtii."ni.- Itk.' that, sail) ■(( l„ ■;.! ti 

>f BfitisH Eniiiin.; H *.■ < ..(i i]. t C.i 
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,..,>ir i" (Iralhn in Canaila Out' ' 
Many (11 llifsi! plainly iirfvcntahh'. 
taiHH't !>■■ iif'-at unl.-si tlifc is tl-an 


if (lur (iMn 
1118 havo tt' 

si.lilK'rs at tlT I 
.ii(|fil iittif i-t Ih« will . 

( nt, I'aih of thoKi- 
*t.(j|.'\Statf as SI 

.:tii 1 1 alriuiftt all m 

w.-i,iht T)' 
Christ M- 

1 ot ttll' li 

K. :>zir C.-'g . -"(.n't kn 
.1 hi' a ilungi' i-f hvjrt i^r i' 
Wdulil not Mi'Ttam tlif livf 
.■ ot Chnsl." 

■ Eil.ttir uf Th.- Hn 


A whftlirf thv dill 
rvi'rythinu t'lsi^ is (u! 
nT. Human lUiturr i 

■■Vrry syri'iMtl'i'tic tii 

Min unsflfish unly liy thti 

v.tti itri|i' Kt intrri>8t from first 
'I ttin'i u;i it ijfJdl itsi'lf, magnifi- 

MTt, That w.' 
13 really a spir 

It UltS llM 

srhoois, wi 
lan bo tin! 
1 say the scti(;nit! i 

firurgc Ml Lagan riimitur.' Mfijr : Clui'nan : "H.iyi- listrnii 
tn last. Vi-ry siunif.mnt thai outstaniling iri n tuv.- s-'t up this goal. 

■ should havn hi-tcri! us a uoal irxactly thi: rrvi^rs*! o! Cinn'any is Fu(-irt. Thr idrai 
ritual ore nul aggrandiscn-r'nt. not domiralion, hut Sitvhi>. Stji h a linal is far-rtiachmij. 
E.i(h om- uf us must ask: Hnw far am I (.nparni to rarry Ihts out rnysc-U? In th.i 

i,\v tht^ plan' whrif our tioyS ami girls arr so mut h of thf timr. If Ulf corrrtt iiloa 
incl in our sihools. with the- ari'Mjval of the nation, ifvull arcoirnlish an enormous amount. 
18 f3r-rc;achinu. If utisi'lfishm^ss is to hi; thii wjtihwonl of thi; n, 
for Ihf individual as wHI. Capacity for srrv.(<- is the test of grratni'ss. 'Ht- that i 
shall lose. It." applies to rahon as to mdivulual, Thi^ great nation will l>- Ihi) njihur 
in EPrvinu the world. That thu (joal is distant is no reason why we should not driilmrati'ly try to 
;ed toward it. Aiming at a high ideal leads us up. As to melhL'iJa Ihrn 

r elf.ciiinty only let ll.i' lit.uen.y lie in La(.auly for service, instead of m tapaiity 

e can see launched m this country 
■■ opened. "He that would l»^ 
^ea.' Let this t:e our goal. We have had, and have, 
nthror>'- this with the apimval cf the nation. In tho 

Umn, it must In; 
vtll save his lifti 
I that will t^Jicel 
lie rati! 
vili he difference of 


Opinion. Organlii 

for ministering to selfishness. There needs lo Le orgamzatinn 

a movi ment thai will enthrom; unselfishness, a 0"'at new era 

greatest among yoL, let him he as one as s. 

unselhsh teachers, bi-t d will mean mu(h to 

measure in wh'>;h we can cairy out this prcigram, we shall achieve great things," Waihny 

McUgan at his off.ce next morniny. I secured f.cni him a subscription of $£CO.0O for the e 

the Conference. He said it was enti'^'iy appiepriate that the initial expense 

of the country should be borne by the Winnipeg Comn.dti e. l.ul that th- Li 

the Conference, should bf; distributed over <.)-<■■ inuntty.i 

ble interpretation of the movenii.nt, tin se nioti 

ises of 
imding out the utlitudo 
ct the financing of 

vith this movement and 

Carried i 

After the conclusion of IVir MiLinjan^ ailnnralili 
were made ; 

By IVlessrs. McLaughlin ami Martm : "That we associate ourseh 
form ourselves into a group to support it." Carried unanimously. 

By Dr. Silcox and Mr. Smith: "That Mr. McUgan act as chairman of group." 

By Mr. Mayberry and Mr. Strudeley; "That Mr, MfLagan 1)0 assisted by a tommdbie consishng 
of Dr. Silcox 'to act as secretary , and Mr, Smith," Carried. 

The Stratford meeting was one of the three best meetings I have had. includmy those held in 
the Maritime Provinceh. 


Hjil III Qo to Tofonto to mrnult w'lh Mf Bulti'.in, jtil w.i^ 
VW..I".vljy ^trjtlorrl mrrlirifj fur. I Ini Fful.iv '^"I»>1 Thiit*.l,iv, «l 
iti.t>tiinj f«i Srftuiclav f>u''l '■' Jl'W" "' MdV"' DjI. , St Mjty'* 
l>V N. L. Bfamk.n. Chjirnun <.l fitum.' ( umM-itt... „t ( „urH il, Sj' 
.rn*ilr,l. rrUil n('u(m i.ix'ti. t ti . vU . In M"I' '' ""-' '■" l'"M<it f 

Ciii-llrfl lUttirilillrf (iJllM-.t 

Hfv Mf Mill-' Mini».I< r of Fi'St Pudliyln-jn (Imi 
Byrniwth.tu With 8uih an iil<-a. It t'i»t» .1* .uMiiraliiH' m v 
Shoulil like to lit' ["Oiilr trofH Coust to Ct)aftl (WFtintuling 

Duman MiV<(im<ll Rufal Routi-, No. 3. St Mafys, 
ifi Columttij Univ.TB.ty. N V. ■■Ndttot'al idfa a.ltn.rahlr 
wiitilil ttf lifouuhl liil*'thfr EjhI jml Wrsl. arnl 

Riw. Mr Ffank 'Jtiftl tl"' l'""il >*'■ "'• 
It't's havi- a touplf nl liuixiff.l Iti Ijkf tits iiU* < 
wan h.s loili--star. Lrl uii havi' a iiatmnal 

r.t j(<l.- til rt■^^,(1l.. A(iik itrf.l 

|,|<t'.l (ly.t tn St Vary* jl'.l Ji(JfH|i'l 

1(1.1 tiny ialli<! Int (mii.i'! irurnl'" 

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, ((t«fi| tTH't'tllllt .tltil 

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til.' ..■rtijl Ilur It I 

, I.M.tN'l III l.ltf f'f 

J VI ly (jFiu 

I (IjS-irfi, UU.l V "• l.' ■■ 

Wr iiicil a lUtiotial |)r(}|)l<i'l II \ 
Hjvr liri-n rrailino Lid' ut M.i/iin 
thuil fcit (igtitt'ousniiss " 
Df. A. A. Kno. E»-thairman. Coll IhbI Board, ami IHi» y.'df m."il..'r ..t wm, 
the th.iolooy ot may liv, wtirti il loiiits to nUhon ol "ijn ti. mai 
ilBfAlf down to Lovf, Sa(, Siitvirr. Thii spirit ihoulii In' rva.l-' imfI amt (U'lil of uur 
Rytleni. Inilwd it Stioulll \w ma.ffi tti« Inu [latt. This wt^ stinulH ilrmanil as tiliirns it 
wortti whilr than anytn..-T I'lw. It shoulil lit' the fund.iin.-ntdl thought ami ti'nttv nf our 
systiTti Wjr has shown us L^^at thr only urt-at thiiid is sHI-'iarnf.i r Lft us r«Jlt this i 

ijti't h.iyi' or 

.... ■ Wlul.'v 

iholi' thiiii) tiu 

It'll as I 

Why wo should > 

l.'S lit > 

■1.1 anotlii' 

111 [iraii' 

y i"ii 

iil.'d apiifjls lu ntr. It 
'It louldn'l 111' ildiii' so stn> CaiU'ld iliil i 
idea IS rrally to Canadianue and ChnstianiH' our i-.luia 
Hint iMilwrfU ofoups t^** ^a^'' •''■''" thought 

Dr. L. L. Follitk M.'tntwir Collogiato Inst. Board' 
undtTtaking. hut nothing should Itf too big lor Canada. 

Rtv, Capt. MastiiFS "Thn 
tional system, Thurn arc largt' (imnts of possible agn 
widely sundfirt^d. Movement of this sort i9 simply taking hold of a (e-tile f,eld that Irrs turfy t.. for.- 
us, Perfoctly feasilile and possible. Now is tho time. I can't help leilirig ihat this is th.- ; 
way ot working out a gnat national plan." 

W A, Mflntyre Chairman, Coll. Inst, Board ; '■Someone has had a vision ol what our national 
hf.. r.'.iuit.-s, and I am fully m sympathy with plan outlmod by Prof, Ostiorni'. Anything we ran do 
as a nation on this line. w.U n'pay us nthly." 

J. A, Finlayson Prim;ipal. Piit.lir School : "Step in right direrl.on at right War has brought 
before us new idr^al of satnhu; and servue. This plan should produn- >uAMv improvrm-'nt m type 
ol citizenship." 

Rev, Mr. Spente '.Baptist': "If you an: guirfl to have a United nation you must arhiew it 
through the schools, with the young. If we arr ijoinfl to harmonize the ruLes this plan must be i.arned 
out. It IS worthy a big, strong attempt anyway," 

L. Harstone Barrister ; "This has been a fine meeting. Nolhing will do wiihoul exampie. 
It will do good to get representatives of all dasGe.s together. Personality is Ih.. Imj Ihimi" Walking 
away from the meeting. Mr, Harstone said St, Mary's would undoubtedly be rep-isented at 
Conference, I 

Motion of endorsement passed, and loi;al committee formed, consJstJno ul L, Harstone, Chairman; 
Dr. A. A. Kno.t. and Mr W. A, Mi:lntyre, 


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l-.„- I Ihf Nit.t,r-.«l ( .,:( W.'M. 

BHANIMiHl), Kfif 

, IMrtir^U m BM"lt"''! Ilmii.,*' lit' .l«»i*U»i. ' d' '■''» 

,.t.»v "I M»« F h .T.iff."ut"". ri'»"h"t, this *.i« 

Itl ■■lyltl-til.mti' •ptiill, *hiih AJS » 

(j»i.n U.rg .i»i.|tu<l..l to tirt^tt f «p>l 

i()r<l<jl frmilulMin uf 
> 'ii-vcf tMmx :)!■' At 
milM, I ifitcfv.fwr.l Mri riu-ptt.' J'^'l Mf« Tii'Fir>,it<m, al thr r.M.t.r.t- di S.f H.f"v 
I tti" outio""' "uy 1.1- J U'""l> ni..|inu <>t mmt.n jit Tinftt'ln n. it fri.ljv I tifU'fnum-ti 

M'tlJrlh lil .(>. Iuil<' *i"i>t'tl If! ttir .JM" tit ""'■■tilUlS 

H,- W..'-.l'iii, Maviir M.i.B-i'lr, »»>.. l-tt u >,n><u,\ m.-rt,..o 

fint> A of 111-' BMi<|l«r<l 

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III aititrrsM 

A W Bull Pitrritial, Hnjh Sit'wl "As 'o "Iral. ttn' 
Fii.Mlii r-.uftt i>f all 11 to havr Itirw iilfjls iTiuiUati-il >n oui (m.p 

rn.l too ««.n. We ar,' a n on-y-yahlm-u „*'« * '•"►"' '•"'""H" "'" ■"•""' *"" '•"" ' "^^ •"' ^''"'' dualitu'i, quulil'tn ol Irailcrnhin, Hr shoulil (><■ a trai hfi 

irHttun Wt'al Ca'uila 
<K wai Id •'■III. (>ut it may 

I .in 

. I ai 


tx' Ipiriiiuht tu a iHiiiit wl 

Puliln SitUKil irsi'filot Kilrr 
ilanijiTous ttif tfaihiTs tu .'iiv<;i,il'' 
lonif I tu'lmvi' the m»I 

m. rrnn.'v .n it"" An to m.'aii». 
1 of ovutrtiis Tht' talk is hard I' tli>' war la^ts lony •nougli, *!■ "lay 
ft., shall t.i' to pay lli<- (.fi-- (iiviUvr,! in .■nttiroitimj sj.nfur." 

"Wr tiavr alltu.».n) in all otHrr rrsp.-i tit SJvr fiwriry. It la 
,il.' .illriiisni, t ai" i)()liivisti<. irnn.i)h to tlnnk Hiat a bctlvf tuni! will 
l',i-(i tliy nturrt. will cffrd ii U"iitt t tutifli' m thi' trmpef of tho country," 
R(-v. W. A. Bowy. - ■■S.-nt,m.'rt^ h^v s.-i/.-.l ».y .ma.jiiMtion, Th.^y af ..t.-ahstir, hut thts ib 
a t,m.. tor visions Thrrr a..' .Iiff.iultirs in th. ftay. But thrrr air vr-y u«ir.l n;rn hfhinil th.s whrm.- 
Ratli.T than sprak of .IJff.<oltif8. I wouM |)rrf.T to givf this thing a l«o(l. 1 slw)u!,l «*rUom.. a National 
Confrnm (' at whirh outstaniling m.-n and womrn would distuss this [irohlnti," 

M-S S W Sfioril -Ir.t.'nsrly intrfi'Slrd ll is tHr D-tmi of a grrat nlra. Wli.-n W fmil a 
iM Winni|).g lhiMki,i,i of !h.s *.■ ni.v tH^t Ih.rr is s.imrtl'niy tirhind if 
ndorsc whole itlra." 

ij'uui' < 

Mrs. McFarlariil: "Never SO niurh pie; 

Mrs. A. S. Jon.-9; "EriucatorB should lie th.^ tiest paid peoiilti i" the lountry, t agree entirely 
with thr plan. I bi-.Uvva that with the advi-nt of women voters. l\v days uf sn> 
will (lass rapiitly." 

Mrs. Ballaihey Memtn-r of Si hool Bnari 
think a National Confer 
prtfcedo th« Congress. 

Mra. Cieorae Watt: "Idea appeals to nie very greatly, In the Nalmn«l Cuuni 
Iho absence of hnmoc^-reous rthial sl.rd.M::.. I -lard fur hujhiy paid tearhers. Then I should b« 
vry cjaitiiil tn try dfti arils (,n thiir." 

W F. C:i,ikshu». Nlf ■111,5 i:vi'aniii Icitci! l>roullM from «■'■ ,s vi:ry rmouraging. Tin! 
Wisl IS l»'Nil,y renikni'ii 05 .1 gnal i.iv,,.. Our Pul.lic Schools an' brilii than our High Schools. 
Our High School, are h,-lt.i than our Uri,.,, The i.lnals (l«s.:ril»icl an: very high. But nothing 
but good can rfsull trom thum. I am thorcughly in lavof of tho scheme of a National Conference, 


irS fo." traihers 

■'Am yery glail this iiiea ongiratnt in West I 
■ on Eiluialion ».oolil l»^ an iixii'll™t thing. A l„g priiss (amoaign should 

• often (leploro 

if ,t ilnrsrVt inM Ux) muth tor our aftor-tho-war aituatim, 1 know many of thr mrn t.chm.i this si h-m 

thfv .If.' iTi.Ti ut hifjhrst stjmlina. Wr have rhascil thr dln'p<lhty dollar tuo tur'l .n tlus nuiftry. 
It lliis Mh.i-.r m.jrs an dit.tiipt tti work into tli. t lifr of th-' whole |>coi>lf tt'i' M""! o( nor 
tti,-n I hnM 0|i iKitti ll.lnilS fur i1. H JM 'fV ^f'S hf has !lir. .■ at thr frnr^l fjl! 
say t!ir> ha^.' ti.-m morn fnilur„tt. than th. ,. '.ilh.'fs ftho hav livil inrrt-Mo... 
Conf.-r.T.i' will I..- tirl<l. It this nrr gnat u'.r^i lan !-.■ .jiit out of ttm war, I hnli 
rroaiif Mr. Cmkshutt assuml mn n..«t mnrnintj that hr wouM assist us fmam lalty m thr ,-xi.r 
uf Ihi- ('„tifrn-n(n 

Brantloiil will ilo its sham tti (his Confrrcm 

,.1 tH,s war. I will 
yrars, I tfost this 
rvn »i- shall hf wM 

CirOlU'' Hattily Sficriitary. Boaril uf Ttailt 

John H. SpffiCf Ciiitoms Officer.; "I l-ai k up < 

irry ' 

iril Mr. Cofkshutt has spoktfn," 

■.IS iirogram right? It iS very hiflh and 

I havi 

rtpt: lor this 


, thing that has 
-t'lved so grnat 

1. 1 rise up anil rail it l.lusM'd, A great rational spirit and yoal 
unity, A national goal, am) not a national mar.hino is what 

irfiiyiT'.an Whose name unfortunatelv I missed 
1, But wn ought to am, for it. I liehrve tlw people of Cai 
leatil many ailtlrcssrs on tho war; this is one of ttie 
tvlr. Chadsey Manager, Masscy-HarnS' ; "I have not h. ^ni t-„ m:i.',v .• n 

stirred me so much. 1 thmk it .s wonderful that any group of -hooli: have 

an Idea. I wish the plan every success." 

Rev. G. A. Woodsi.ln; "1 am not sure yrt eittifr whether wo am rflady for the war to end. 
The outcome of tho war must t.e hiflher ethical standards. If out of tho Conferonco comos leadership 
tor thi) nation, the whole nation s 
in our education will wold Canada 
we want." 

W. C, Raymon.l , Postn..isl.T : 'A ,.la.> hk,: this (akc^s lin-i-, Th. Prussian ul.ial has I 
ing hard since 1848. Wii can, If m- havn the wisdom, suhstiluln a great lil.-a in Printiriln for thi- 
CSnrnian Crownnil Hrail, which has l.ncn the ma.stcr Ihorc. A free propic can put a lircat spirit in lon- 
trol of Its iMucational machine Tliis is the cnnlral iilr^a of this fino scheme. Tins is the hope of 
Democracy. This has heen a powerful, eloouenl and ir'luential add-ss. Whole country will he under 
ohlnjation to this idea." 

There were also presi-nt: George Watt, Wholesale Grocer, and Christopher Cook, IVIanager, 
Harris, Cook A Co. 

It was mo.e.l hy W F. Cockshutt, M.P., and seconded by Mr. Spcnce, that the meelino appro.e 
the Idea, and name Mesdan i" Ballailiey, Secord and Wall, and Messrs. Raymond, Burt and R.v. 
Woodside, to act as local lommiltee. 

Tho ne«t mornino I was asked to return to Branlford, July 4th, to address the Rotary Clut). 



LOND' -r. 
S!-.inM> V. 

suit was J fa^in 
rfiy ri'Kirds. 
Iffl hy PffSKlcnt Br^iith 

r Rcssion. Throufjh Uu- wimi off.cfis of 
; Chunli. Winnipcij, I wus .in'onlt'd an 
il)lr rrsolution l>y the assctiibly's C<inuiii| 

mtr of Ihc WcsliTii Uni 


At IvrAnn. \hr Pir^.-,'. -,m C.rm i 
Pn-iMiMl B.iHil <it V'uir.ip'n. ..t ^1 R. V M 
(>Pl«trlunitv c' flrsi n.nnd our I' Thr r 
on Elu..ilMHi, *hi. h 1 sI'uM kiM'|> III my r 

The Liipnl(jii Mi't'tirg was i 
asscnihliMl hi tfii' Courxil Chamhi-r. 

F. E. L.onar.l 01 Lt-onard d. S"' s, Iron Factory; Pn-s.. Board of Trade "RathiT favoral>ly 
imprrssrd wiMi what I have heard. I -rX to (In srmfthinfl that wpM mean good for thdsi; who follow. 
We [luist ttuiM a new Canada. Edu(dtii>n ts the ((junifalmn of national prosperity. Canadian Edutution 
has adomplslied mu( h, Edination is the paramount money-maker. I am in (avor of something htg, 
such as has lieen suggesti .! liy Prof. Osborne. We have tieen too proud of our Edutafiunal System, 
We have not gone to see the best that others were doing, and so, m many cases, dry rot has set in. 
I shall take pleasure in watching movement, and will give it support." 'The next morning, Mr. Ooidon 
Philip. Industrial C/ommissioner, London, promised to give all the aid he rould in local organization. 
Hume Cronyn, M.P, : Present, but preferred not to speak. 

Major Murphy i Barrister, Governor of University': "Very mut.h tnierested. Subjeit well worth 
considi'ring. Like the National idea in this thing," 

Mr, Diikensoii -Hicih St hool Staff : "Deeply interested in idea of National Bureau. There have 
been mumblings of discontent re our syslem for years. I think the trouble is the want of ideals. The 
firm hand that is on the neck of the German system has (urnished Germany with its ideal. Five 
hundred thousand Germans in Brazil, practically in German pay drilled to live for Germany. 
We have had no corresponding ideal. Our ideal should he, but equally intense." 

Mayor Sommerville Chairman, Board of Governors, Western University: "Very much impressed, 
especially with later part of address. I believe we are prcducirij, in the schools of Canada, the finest 
possible types. Our soldiers have shown great spint. Dfvelopment, of course, must go on, and I 
think, perhaps, this great Convention will do good. The deathliss things done by Canailians at the front, 
show that the influence of the Canail'an Schools has been good. I appreciate this effort to impress the 
idea of nationality on our people." 

Prof, Patterson iDept. of Mathematics, Western University : "Have listened with much pleasure 
to idea so forcibly and l)roadly presented. The idea ts a good one. Ideal is very high, but that 
should not deter us. The question is, is the goal a worthy ons? Germany will fail because her goal 
IS a bad ore. German goal: World domination. Goal presented tonight is: World domination by ser- 
vice. This is a great spiritual ideal. The disease of Germany was exaggerated ego. This is an effort 
to secure (fom Canada allegiance to a great and proper goal. I think it is highly desirable that the idea 
presented tonight, should be tried. We have over-emphasized mechanism in education. Spirit is the 
great thing." 

Dr. Niivillc, of the University was present, but dislikes speaking. 

Principal Redcliffc (Normal Schooli; "I felt before the war, that we were just a string of 
pruviriuis. But the war has unified us. I ani in favor of the ideas of Conference and Bureau, I am 
much in favor of stressing altruism. 1 do nut want to see our democracy over-organized. With 
general idea, heartily in accord." 

Dr. Sherwood Fox iDepartment of Classics, Western Universityu "Want to register my sympathy 
with idea presented, which will contribute greatly to national unification. A movement like this would 
result in tli(:e, iti iht impreflnstion of our p^vple with thn great ideals of service. This will exert a 



fitii' influt'm t' on ouf ton iijr frilow 
aili»(it Ihr <j( uns.ltisnnrss. \ 
Bt-rlm ai'.l Bmn! <n nnirr to mjt. 

tiitif Why slH.uht ridt thr lutitra' 

ntfjrns. Wf have h-Tc a (imtHisui thai iti.^ tiatinn shall I'jftiuHy 
in Sli'in. in It^i'H, drlilTtal.'iy UuicHmI C.tir.jri Ui ■vi-'Mly systi'in 
■ It to (iroilinr (!'!■ ui llinmihl Vkhn h as a ■■■aM- r o( t a, t 
.'..■tMiany. Vnli Sli'in, in (ith.r wnnls. diil tlliS Hum) at a spr. ifn 
iili'a not hi laun. hril I'liuaKy s['fi it.i ally ? Thirc am ilancjfs m 

mlr|.fn,l.'nt BuM-ait » 

IKiS til 

Its (unctions 

I of It . 

■ iH'cn laid nut t)fi 
(lucation IS an 

unidrd I'lluiatniri, tiut this proposal ni an unt 
would ht! ailuisory only. Heartily t^mlors*' ulra." 

Mr. Manning tP-ano Manufai tu..'r ; Mrnih-T Bnard of EiliuulKin, anil ■■« 
Ihouijh it can't t>i' done, gn atinad ami dn it." 

Mr. McKay Dirf^rtor Tochnual Eiluiattnn («.r Ontario 'This idea has 
ttiti tatili' in this way t)t'fortt. 1 Ihmk tin' id.j of a Dominmn-wid.' iirgarn/atuin 
fxcHlcnt thing." 

Rt'v. Mr. Marf.rr(|Of 'Iniluslrial tfainiiK.) is in>ptirtunl, ..ut thn spint induind |iy Education 
IS still niofd so. Ot-rniany took tare of ti-<hn(iur. l>ut fai'i d in the Spint of hrr f.luiatton. It is im- 
portant that our schools stanrl for a vifw of social niattons that shall l>i: the or'positi' of svlfishncss 
and mfircfifiarincss." 

Tticrr wi'ri^ present also, Inspi-itor Eriwartis, anil Miss Btcnion. Supervisor of London 

Motion passed appointing Prof. Sherwood Fox link of I'jnnntio" with us. 

Later, through thi> kindness of Miss Grace Blaikhurn, Pre&nlent of the London Women's Canadian 
Glut), I met at her house, the following women: 
Mrs. Thos. Baker 
Mrs, H. B, While 
Mrs. T. H. Curling 
Mrs. A. T. Oards 
Mrs, A. B. Greer 
Mrs. Donald McLean 
Mrs. R. M. Graham 
Miss Isotinl C. Armstrong 
Mrs. F. W. Hughes 
Miss Nellie Blafkhurn 
Miss Susan Blackl)urn 
Miss Grate Blat'tmrn. 

This group of women listened to plan with keonost cordiality, organized thrmselvns into a group 
with Mrs, Thomas Baker as Secretary. At the conrlusion of the meeting I was asked to address the 
Women's Canadian Club on Thursday, June 27th. 



Ailtti fablr arrangf'mrnts fof St. Tlortias *i*r«' mailc iwsmIjI'' through thr n 
Jam.'s H. Cnym-. father of J. B. Coyne, K.C. of Wmrii.rg. Mwti-iy h.l.! in Ci,i 
H(i-l(iri [/fi'Siilit'u. 

tani. ..t Dr. 
'ilii'f, Mayor 

I think 1 

■ shoul.l tuv tfi^s Cnrffi 

itilmij St. Th( 
hv (ilijf).t IS thr ivO 
riiniOMily will rot l"' 

Mayor Norton. "Iit'.il nuisl *iiitl-.y. 

Inspector TjvUt Etyir County, tiIui: 
of functamental prin'iplcs of tdiiiatKirv Ttii: 
traiiii'ig must tiulk lug m future. 

Ri'v, W. H. Harvey Methodist ■'Excmvlingly kMi r^sfil. ' 
that has surcmli'd must bo adiustcd to keep gooil Nalmnal [io*ri 
an education orgar!tivd by a great spirit will snrvn our ourpoae I i 

nyht natino^il liaits. Vu. Jtiorul 
n dSMStmi) this |jrfi,ri t, t(.'" worthy 

r-' must tit' I hange. A (lond thing 
' tdui ation tfemendous. Only 
i|u ii)y best to pfoniblflato this 

C. St, CIdif l_eit(li BorristiT "I agree with much, though not with all. We ilo not need to 
go to Germany foi anything. A ISiatiunal Bureau might supply the National Element need m our 
schools- I fe(5l that (he idea is well woilh ronsideration- I ttiin?^ we ought to organJ?e in ordet to keep 
in touch with the movf.ment, and in order to send representation to Conferente." 

Inspector Smith: "So many ideas have been suggested to my mind, that I am at a loss to choose. 
It is well worth whilo for us to pause and take stock. Far too little said generally about conservation 
of our human resources. If we can introduce this spirit into our schools, wc shall have done much. 
Bureau can serve great function as clearing-house for ideas. I wish to express warm appreciation." 

A. Roberts i School Trustee -: "Have lislencd with great interest. Ideas of speaker agitated me, 
rnade mc think, t am decidedly of opinion that we cannot become a great nation until the spirit of 
our education tmcomes national. The spirit of our schools must tie naticnal if we are to Canadianize 
our foreign fellow citizens. We have neglected our educational systems. One-half of our school 
population does not get past the third l)00k, A wiser civilization must be marte to ol)tain, and it must 
rest upon education," 

Dr. Bennett (Dentist; President, Horticultural Society; has made town noted for flowersi: "Too 
many of our children drop out. System must be made more attractive. I think a Bureau of 
Educational Research would l)e a great thing. Our educational System would prof.t greatly from Con- 
ference and Bureau. 

C. F. Maxwell (Police Magistrate and Ex-mayon: "Great central idea; We must have a great 
National Ot)ject in our Education. To this end our education must have a national purpose. I believo 
that idea would be developed by a national body. There has been a German Kultur. Let us have a 
Canadian Culture. Germ, n Kultur equals 'German Might is Right,' Let us make key c. our Culture; 
'Service for the World,' Something great for Canada may easily be accomplished t)y this, I should 
like to see this Bureau cstahlished. I should like the Government to take hold of this Big Bureau 
idea. We must worst Germany by the superior education of our people. We should develop great 
men and women, and to do ibis, we must have great auspices for our education," 

George A. Anderson (Railwayman; President, Y.M.C.A,): "The move is one in the right 

Dt JamoB H Coyrtr 'V'-ry *afml 
ulii-« in tlic worlit Tl>f(r, tlivy an- Mii-> i. 
lu'ttff than wi> in fusing ^i in|o on*' Ampi 

aiHiro"!- s< hfmtv Wirniiwij in one of Ifni most losmoiKtlitan 
V irit< ri'Stt'll in nli^rnKhip Tfi>- Unlrd StutrS has ftuH i^filt'il 
an Spirit. Thn iili-a til ili'vrlu|iinu a Lominon Canadian 

S[iifit IS onR that ilrsffvi s jrut jttrntujii Tl-rr 
Ihi '"nr Aiiy of mtusitiij thf *fu)lt' (ouritry V.itli 

is ,1 splnndi'i m* ti-cliny m yuelmc. Thern must 

, I (iMiniun sjiint, rvi*n if funuB vjfy. I Jpprovw *holi' 

Movi-il liy Dr. Coyni? and SfiiundPil l^y C, St, Clair Loitif 

t'ling approve plan ol 

Tfi« Mayor cordiaMy voluntocrnj to i 
Thomas ru ttie Ci»nf«r«nctJ. 

dl puhlic mrrting at [tropor tir 

t to takH stflps for St. 

Unanimously aflrep() that Dr. Jaiiii-s H t'oynt' stiould he h«^ad of organiiation for the city. 

Them were also present. 

Mrs. Amasa Wood. 

Mrs C. St. Clair Le.tch, 

Mrs. Dr. I Coyne. 

Miss Margari't Coyne. 

Mrs. iMayof' Hortor. 

Rev. W. J. W. Andrew Angliran). 

Rev. Mr. Raymond Discipirs Churchj. 

F. B. Holthy, Managrr, Merchants Bank. 

Mr. Elliott, Royal Bank. 

Mr. Mclvor of "The Times." 

Dr. C. B. Taylor. Dentist. 

F. W. Wriijht; and a few moro whose names I did not succeed in learning. 


A<ti»>- ..0-«(>"''Jl">'i '">'" MjV'i' Wf:»I ft'U' rrr-ii.lril ovt'f nit-.-ling in Coi 
A.' Ijsl n...('lt, a 111 OnlJHii fiif the tint- l).Mfifl. »Ji onu ol thv |i.»l, 

Prof A T. MiN- H Pm'>mIijI, WmxIMmK Bjl.tiM CuHrUf, lifiitfifF ot Hi 
I W(>>) i *iavr i-ni(iv<-'l t't'iittily, and diir.t' ludttily Thf ynat mw 

mtinn"' Wlut r'luM I"' thtt gri'at toilfttniiliw U 
lullimu liMi uooit fuf (JjFUila I 4U'>'" *'*•' I very 

Juhfi Ml til ill, (orfiirrly 
thia Mdr IS Ihr morat 
til' fblurtv' II (I'Uiil t'f tilm jtKwi, ThiTw if 
pohin, and *illi ttn' ulfa uf 4 CttnlrronLii," 


I <iii»u' 

inu Thjt n 

uy tia» th<- 


Wo ttMll 

I Itun WinnifX'g «*hi'M 

I (lit- 

I of uood 

' my initial I 

■prFl.'.t J.I 

It'j and » h 

Pfimitiil Salter Cyllnaial*' Initituti- 
" .iinplinl to imitatfl thi Ciorinan Hli icn< y. 
inlnfr«ti-(l otiji-'l, th«! ri>Bultl Wil' (mi unlortiin. 
Mt Nofry. "Muth mtffHStfd. t bvUv 
I BtiaM !■<■ gUtl to fiolp ar>y *ay I can " 

Mr liay il fanty ttuB ii T, W '-iray u 
Convention Mill IjuhlH ulna iplcrulidly" 

Rot>«rt Jotinston Formi-f rhairman School Board!; -Thcac mvn in the West arif l.adinu the 
way. Thi' torrign prolilrn. (alls tor action. Our rriuratioo tiiuit l-n «pirituali/«d in tho liroad wntc 
or pl»c! wi' ran't havt^ a great nation. II *p fan g. t togrthrf in a Confrrenro w« ought to In- atH« 
to formulate a good 8thrm« Prof. OstHirnu has placed great ideas Ijetofii its. If *« ar.< going to t)(i 
a great nation wc mu«t build on moral principlPB." 

E, L Tiii>lciiy iPrttident, Beard ot Trorte . ■') hud niisfl.vmgs, hut am very glad I camu 
Not oni. of u» but rraliies the natitrwide irT'ttiHn of thu idea. They ar« not afraid in tho West 
to launih big ideas. Let us copy tho CemarB. in the ONE re^peit of doing WELL what we wt out 
to do. thililun vv trr plaMu naterial. Wfi are all -eady to go on record as dedanng that this 
id.a IS a move decidedly m right d.roition, Clooil idea to linnfl in tug Britons and Amernans to 

- Diinlop ! Whether Stephenson or James, I am not siro. Think he is connected with the 
manufacture of the Karn Organ.; "Listened with (jreat pleasure, and agri'o at every point. Speaker 
is on right track, The press, too, is very im()Ortant, and theic should bo some way of converting it 
into a greater national'y eduutivo (orco than it even now is. The school and the press, these arc our 
great national hopes. Agree with scheme." 

Rev. Capt. Appleyard Anulican .: "I agree most heartily. Splemlnl ideal. Mary of us have 
had the ideal, liut have not kncwn how to carry out. I believe we have the way sketched out here. 
This will be religion lived. We must get rid of the idea represented by the words, get, me. mine. 
If we can all will l>e well. Let us train a nation that will think of 'the other fellow.' We shall give 
a lot of thought to this plan. We shall follow the gleam we have caught tonight. I promise my 
support in every possible way. I have looked at Gorman prisoners- at Vimy. On the.r faces, you see 
written 'materialism.' On the faces of our Canadian boys, caked with mud an>: grime, I saw a light, 
the light of the ideal This is the result already of good teaching, but we mus". go much farther in 
inculcating the idea of unselfishness." 

Alderman Clifford Kemp: "I rise to say h^-w much I have enjoyed address. Complete sympathy 
with Bcheme." 

Mr. Hendershott 'Teacher, Public Schools^: "If this idea is going to unite Canadians, 1 wish it 
well. My wish is that Canada may get something out of this war, that will make it better. Canada 
has commanded admiration of world in war, why not similarly command admiration of world for our 
ideals? " 

- ....ij^aj^i^. 

Pfolniltnr Huif" Bjpti»t Collngo 'Thr. , 

tAvtif of German fHicirni y. and asjamut ti«'t'i>an i» 

rlf.llcftuji. I 

■1(1(1 ii(i».'lfi»lin.'»t at tarn 

jy priitfti hai Iwrn (iiit aiiln'j'i ti. (".■ tniti. n.lcu 
■ri».i, a.liuiti-.| .r. Iti. l-iitil ..I II" *J' I i'" I" 
rwfal.ty Lrt m tah.' Ihr.f i-M s .. ni , jn<l v Up 

tti.-,f nH>rjl.|y Ot tnuri.- t^'r' tirrmjf. |..u n W4^ rat-.-r tt'jf ('•■■ on.- *•' Jf- f" «■ th.iy rjurM lv> 

It H f**ii<t til pfomotn nfti.n'fM.y tof tn-\h%n Hun fur urivlti%h i-mlft " 

Mr W.Imt.'r "Thii |.t'y»»al lvP''» "' ""' I*" '•>"■» 'iinl.frt 
ticrman ik t-H.iii'nl, mivhariiial, s«ll.«h. thf h.yh-tica'tt'l Anu!i»-Sjj 
Thr Ml<ia m ngf't. Ttm pfotil'-m m not an "a** tiov 

Aldwrman Ro<ltJ'ch "Onlightn.1. Spl.^n.l..! rTOivommt ,f ,t <;ari tm i|'.t yi>.ng It will liav- -ny 

Harry Sykr^B Srcretary, Botr.l o( Tfa.ln -ll >s s-umfu a"l of our |.a^t ..v.-ji Ma.-Ur.ln that 
wn h«v« not tx'ttrr tiankruptiy liwt " 

Rov. W, F (iantl iMetrWHiitl; nophrw ..I Hi-v Dr. Uonar.l (iaot/ o( H..I Of^." Civili/jt.on 

hai virtually (ollapif.t, an. I wfl all want th.- future to Ik> a nrw wirt of thing. Surtwi of un havti l»i.n 

hoping that wu m.ght movf" out on nrw lin<;s. Wo have lust " with Christianity so la- 

Unli'«i wo can give Chnitiamly a puLttial turn, wn ihall fa-l in our grtjt talks I ani inoM 
flfatifi«tl tiy what I hawn h«ariJ toniaht. Thii niovi'munt it Lakulatml tu bring togrlhrr thu li^nl l.taini 
to work out a plan for practical r.ghHtouincii in thn nation. I uiv< tny approval nwat huartily." 

R^v Dr, Uthwn Presbyterian. "1 f.ilt gr»;atly honor..! whi-n Prof, Osiw'i" tame to see me. 
I U-M that somnlhmg grrat was starting. Our ...lui:ation inusl li>i spiritual m its int«ntion. rather thj" 
piii.'ly utilitarian. Srhdmi- as ouHin.M; this (iv.'timg, it put into ('«"■(. w^il .»«"rl gmat mflutrm.'. 
This ulna iniulcatttU in our pooplt^ shoul'l greatly hnuhtm our iil.iats. The ilt]v«^loprtiK.nt of i.harattitr 
»liOul<) bo thp oroat idea of education. Grrat personalities anil gooil citiums shoul.i bti the output of 
our schools. I movo that wo ten.lcr our hfiartitist thanks to Prof, Osbornii for his e»rt'lli-nl dtatenient , 
that we endorstt scheme. an<l pledu'- our support." Secor.le.l tiy Pfimi(ial M.N.-il), j.i.l , Aith 
unanimity and obvious conlialitv 

It was moved, seconded ',■,( ■ ■ ■ " -t I'rincipal A. T. fyiiNeill represent Wooilslo. k for lU,: 
purposds of this group. Prof. Mcketiu- . ^.i ilic College, was also present, but had to retire early. 





Auuust 1st. 1918. 

Plait- Town Couni:i1 Chamlx-r 
Chairman Mayof Dr. L. D, Krown, 
Invitations si'nt to fifty pursons. 
Pfosent ; 

Ernest Frith. 
Geo, Shaw-Pagp. 
W, J. MacKay. 
I. C. Jopp. 

Ruv. Harry Heathfield. 
G, Churchill (Principal, Hiflh School). 
Jas. Churchill. 
Georgo Campbell. 
S. B. Graham. 
W. Pennington. 
Mrs, Edith K. Truscott. 
Alice 1. Warner. 
Evan Jones, 
H. N. McKeon. 
B. L, Brown. 
Jas. McGuire. 
Major G. B. Murphy. 
Jas. A. Whiting. 
L. D, Keown (Mayor), 

At conclusion of prps^ntation, Mr. Jas. Whiting said: "Knowledge is power. Best money spent 
IS money expended on education. The line is a most worthy one, and stamps its originators as high- 
miniled citizens. We are not satisfied with our schools. Pos8il)ly we never shall be. Present system 
IS too stereotyped. It does not take sufficiently into account diversity of taste and talent, I am very 
much enthused by this idea, I trust the object of the movement will come to the fullest fruition. " 
Moved vote of thanks to speaker. Warmly seconded by Major Murphy. 
Rev, Mr. Heathfiold moved, secofivlod by Mr. Frith, barrister, approval of Winnipeg scheme, 
and pleilge of local co-operation. Mr, Heathfield said; "Scheme will receive hearty endorsation of 
whole people. We are just on the eve of a great constructive period, and these men are laying founda- 
tions lor a far-sighted scheme, I am sure out of this will come a happiness and a prosperity that will 
be worthy of Canada," 

Mr. Frith, barrister, seconded. He said; "I am sure everyone will endorse. No one knows 
how much power is stored up in Niagara Falls. Wu must develop the power, and then direct it properly. 
What will come out of this will depend largely on ourselves," 

Moved, seconded and carried, that Mr. Gordon Churchill, Principal, High School, act as 



Placn Town Council Chamber. 

Chairman Acting Mayor J. H. Chalmers iMayor absent at Calgaryi. 

Tuesday, August 6th, l<<18. 

Present : 

J. H. Proctor. 

W. H. Coulter. 

W. R. Beveridgo. 

Mrs. iRflbeccai Dayton. (Member National Council of Women, Home Economic Society, etc.). 

R. A. Neelin iHigh School Principal), 

H. W. Dayton. 

H. M. McLaren. 

Rev. Dr. W. A. Cooke. 

W. F. Richmond. 

James Pangborn. 

E. J, Scales (Chairman School Board). 

Mrs. W. F. Richmond. 

W. A. Brickett. 

J. H. Chalmers (Barrister— Acting Mayori. 

At the conclusion of presentation of the idea, it was moved by J. H. Proctor, seconded by Mrs. 
H. W. Dayton, and carried unanimO!isly, "that this meeting form itself into a group, with Mr. E. J. 
Scales, Chairman of the School Board, as Convenor; pledging itself to use its best endeavor with the 
School Board and the Trustees' Association of the district, and in any other way possible, to see 
to it that Virden is adequat'^ly represented at the Conference suggested by citizens of Winnipeg." 

Moved by Rev. Dr. W. A. Cooke, seconded by W. A. Brickett, and carried, that Mr. W. R. 
Beveridge act as Secretary of group. 

Moved by E. J. Scales, Chairman of School Board, seconded by W. R. Beveridge. and 
carried, that Rev. Or. Cooke present this subject to the Trustees' Association of the municipality wit;, 
a view to their interesting themselves in this project. 



D^te August 8th, 191B. 

Placfl Council Chambor, City Hall. 

Chairman His Worship, Mayor Black. 

ThH Council Chamtter was crowdod. A o^atifying fcaturo of this mfleting was that, as lists will 
show, thoro were many present from widnly-scattercd points in thH Pfovinr?. A conforoncu was going 
forward at Regina Collogo and, thanks to tho gratifying interest of Pre8'..iint Stapleford, a largo delega- 
tion of those in attendance at the conference were present at the nieotiny. The admirable initial 
notices from the Press c Hegina, the reports of the meeting, which at this writing I have not yet seen, 
but which promise to be generous; the creditable attendance from Rogma itself, and an engagement 
next Friday before the Rogina Canadian Club, when I shall bo able to speak on a topic m general 
accord with our propaganda, warrant me in thinking that the capital of Saskatchewan will be somewhat 
fully introduced to the Winnipeg project, On the other hand lUcse present from other points will 
carry the idea somewhat widely. 

After tho address I asked those to sig- .ts who wore in favor of the idea, so that the lists 
m this case represent those who were prepared in the most formal way to associate themselves with 
the enterprise. 
Those who thus signed from Regina. were: 

Prof. E. R. Doxsee (Regina Collegei. 

J. W. Storey (Regina CoHegei. 
' A. E. Counsel! (212 McCallum Hill Bldg.i 

R. E. Turnbull (Barrister and Member of School Board, 2175 Rae St.i. 

Flora E. Peverett (2178 Angus St. I think this is Mrs. J. R. Pevorott, President, Local Council 
of Women I. 

Q. Nelson Dobie (Warden, St. Chad's College;. 

F. A. Hounhan Collegiate tnstitutei. iDr. Black, Principal, was absent from city). 

Thos. M, Molloy i2108 Rae St.'. 

A'istin Bothwell (Collegiate Institutei. 

T. D. Brown iDean, Law School, 2153 Mclntyre St.l. 

President E. W. Stapleford (Regina College). 

W. P. Reekie (President, Sask. Educational League, 45 Canada Life BIdg.). 

Martin Banton (City Hall', 

Chas. P. Qrake (?) (2264 Elphinstone St.). 

W. A. Thomson (Reflina). 

Rev, Warren Rothwell (2226 Retallack St.). 

H. M. Allan (2144 Argyle St.). 

J, McCarthy (Pans Hotel, Regina). 

J. T.(7) Galloway (?) (Merchants Bank). 

Rev. Robt. Milliken (7957 Smith St.). 


0. H. Batr bi Canada Lift* Bdlg <- 

Dr W W. Amlrtiwi i21&2 Angus St.i, 

J B. Mussniman iFarrrwrs Blitg. Mr. MunsHlinan is St^trrtary ot th« C<lu(atiuFi Lrayuu of Sask.i 

Hi' movfn) thfi rpsolutiom. 
John C. Frwfirh iRi>gina>. 

Rev, Dr. Petiir Stfang i224f» Cornwall St.i. 
James Balfour i2375 i?' Victoria Avim. 

A. D. Carrothers i212B Cornwall St.i, 

R. J. McDonalil '73b* St. John St.'. 

J J. Smith (2224 Mclntyre St.i. 

D, J. Ritchie 11309 Athol St <. 

To giv« thi! CommittPP all the facta, this mfans .10 8ignatur«B from Rt'oina r««iilent8, to a full 
ilorlaration of approval of the plan. I find thpro aro 29 signatures from pomts outside Regina. 
Thosfl signing from Provincial points, were: 

J. C. Sitiley (SI ho. Saskj. 

C. W, Down (Boharm, Sask,:. 

Thos, Currant ih^cLean, Sask.i. 

H. W. McConnrll .Shaunavon, Sask.i. 

J. T Stt;pht:ns iMilden, Sask.i. 

R. McNaughton Cupar, Sask.i. 

H. R. McNaughton tCupar, Sask.i. 

William Keall, (Bounty, Sask.i. 

A, W. Kccton I Richardson, Sask.i. 

Wm. Mason iMawer, Sask.^ 

Herbert A. Fewster tCraik, Sask.i. 

Lilhan H. Donnelly il56 Garry St., Wpg.i. 

Hannah J. Starr ^Forget, Sask.i. 

Geo. Marshall (Colgate, Sask.i. 

J. McMurtry iMazenod, Sask.). 

H. Harrison (Beverley (?i. Sask.). 

Thos. Bray (Caron, Sask.i. 

Rev. M. M. Bennett (Pres. Sask, Conference, Swift Current, Sask.). 

A, E. Allin iCreelman, Sask.). 

J. M. Singleton (Outlook, Sask.). 

J. M. Telford (Yorkton, Sask.K 

A. E. Whitehoose iStrassburg, Sask.i. 

Alex. Macgregor (Principal, College, Moose Jaw). 

T. C. Margraves (Tisdale, Sask.L 

H. D. Ranns (Carievale, Sask.). 

J. McLachlan (Watrous, Sask.). 

W. R. Seeley lEIslon, Sask). 

Arthur A. Frye iFiske, Sask.). 

W. S. Cram (Swift Current, Sask.). 

At the conclusion of address, Rev. Dr. Stapleford, President Regina College, said: "This is the 
thing that Canada wants. We are always confronted by danger of provincialism. I like the idea 


ol lifHUjHifl It' bm iiutsiilt ' , Id tu-H, us U't US ln> t))g in nur .drds and .nvitf al'so'utr I 
iiiiulil Ilk', fuf r»ampli', to licaf .it Ih.s conli-rtiin', lull it"* niitionB ot thi' great Enylish Putilic, St hools. 
I liirMt Hn' whulr prupfitiition." 

W P. Rffkip, Ctiairnian. Sash Eilui . Lraguti W.' havf tonn? lo timo ^hi^ti wi- must luok 
.tt'u" in a National way Thnrn is a nerd lor thr National Sociali/ing ol our knowlmlgn I 
Jliprovf thtt prinriple " 

J (.'., Mussulman, Sem'tary, Sask Educ, Leaguiv 'Wi! am all ir>8()irMj hy aildrtias. Eduration 
tiy praitital liff has alrnn aavi'tt us Irom tht> unilormity whnh our inass nicttioifs of I'llmatinn woulil 
hi'.. i-ri>'luci'(l." Mr- Musstilman then movi'd, st^rondi'd l)y Dr. Statilflonl "That tins mrrting. having 
listi'ntKl with llir utmost interest to tint prttsentat'ur^ liy Prof, Oshorni!. of (he proposal of Ihi- Winnipeg 
Oommitt'e for tho calling of a representative nation-wido conlerente on Eiluiation, with a vmw lo the 
' KiatiOfi of a National Burnau of Eduiation of an advisory character, heretiy expresses itself as in full 
''vmriatliv with the proposal, and pledges its co-operation to the emi sought." 

Dijcuaaior continuing, Dr. W. W. Andrews said: "Two modern nations have i hanged thomwlvos 
liy eduration Japan and Germany. Japan has educated itself forward from a feudal state to alliance 
with Britain Germany has fMlucated herself lia(kward until she is the outlaw of the nations. Germany 
has been absulutely transformed by the iron system ol Prussia, The ethics and religion of Democracy 
must be brought m. I am not thinkmg of dogmatic religion. There is no element m the community 
biat 'oulil object to a sentiment bke this: 'Who shall ascend up into the Hill of Jehovah he that 
hath clean hands and a pun; heart," or to the spirit ol Kipling's 'Recessional,' I mean the ethics of 
Service and Brotherhood. Let us develop a great common spirit in all our schools. Let us cultivate 
tho hero-worship of our l»oys and girls. Wo must get into and th-ough our schools the throb of a 
united Canada." 

Dr. Thomson said: "The health of the bodies of our children must be stressed in this scheme." 

R. E. Turnbull, Mombe/ of School Board; "If this brings together people of West and East, 
It will he well worth while. Can't build up great country without getting together. Very glad to 

T. D. Brown, Dean of Law School: "Old Filth Reader used to have great passages frorr. 
Demosthenes, Macaulay, etc. I have kept that old reader ever since. Never read it in school because 
series changed before I got to fifth class; but I heard older pupils read, and I have always prized it." 

The resolution was then passed unanimously. 

The meeting then appointed the following committee: 
Dr. Stapleford (Convenor, and link of connection ^ 
Dr. W. A. Thomson, 
J. 8. Mussclman. 
John McCarthy. 
Mrs, J. R. Reverett. 
W. P. Reekie. 
Dr. Norman Black. 
J. J. Smith. 

Mr. Nivens iSupt. of Schoolsi. 
With power to add to numbers. 



'""'■' f'"'''" '■'■'""'K l'M»liylir,jn jr,,l M.-lh„.l,.l 

Miiriwn, 4nil callvd l,„ J o'lluik ,ii 4, |„ ,.„j,,li. n.c 

H US M,irmly 


D4t» Augiitt l?th 

Pl*i. To«n H4II 

In Chjir Rrv (jhjilr. Miitgjri M, 

MiTliny dfrangi^d ilufniy Ujy liy M 
uo tin to M««i- Jjvy hy 6 o"i I04 k tfjm. 

Tho.., ,ho ,».|„„,l,,l 10 Mr, MwB4„-. ,m,M,«n and .ho „g„„„ ,„,„ „a„, 
int«rti«ttul in tchitinii .fii< 

Ml.. C, E. Sh.lilon William, .Tcatl.o, ol Prav.n.i.l Dulnnlioii Hom„ School 

Rt'V. Chariot Morgnn. 

Mr«. Charlfli Morgan. 

Miu Kate MKltltomisr 

Lnvi Thomion, M.P. 

Mri. Levi Thomion. 

G. A. B. Kfook. 

T, E. Scrivdr >E((itor Wolaely Newt,, 
J. A. Hill. 

A. B. Bompas. 
Jas. Little, 
Goo. Whyte. 

J. T. Middlnmiai Insurance and Finance). 
Dr. Elliott lEx-M.L.A.t. 
A. J. Sotting. 

R«v. S. M. Bishop lAnglican). 
W. Crosby. 
Or. R. J. Cooke. 

T. E. Riflney M think th.s „ the sittmg member m Sask. Lcg.slatur. Thus 
Federal member, the local member and the ex-locat member,. 
H ■». Lanflford. 

f Ma«.e, „„«,„,, bul had ,„ leave oa,ly. I (ancy he, lathe, ,ha„ M, Ri„n„y 

memo ' 

.lid no. wish 10 prolong meeting in middle ol al.ernoon, .„ long „.co,„„„ was ou, ., ,h„ 
Questioh, but cordiality to idea .a, evident and unanimoos 

Levi Th„m«,„, MP., moved; Jas. Little seconded, and „ ««s pai,«d unanimously, Ihat l,„s 

::::: zir '"-' •" °""" °' "- '"-'- "--'■ - -- - --^ -. -- ™™ 

I prestTit Itii' 

IS ttl>' 


<-t hi M'R AnguH (Ujhum. Prcsxji'nt UnjI Tiiuni .1 c>r Wor 
r.t(t Ihdt lh<> mt'rting wj> ijlli'it tiy Irlcphiii'i-, IFut >t mj« 
[ift'tfnt. of «hom lorlytwu tignftl. 

Dati< AugutI t&. 
Ptditf PuMk Lihfary 
('4Mi<i| ami prxkHloil 
irttrmt rnjy tir juiigrd Irt 
afh'Mioon. that lofty-fiwi * 

Milt Ji-an Wilion Sup! Uimorril HuipiUI . 

Miti R Lanrhtnn Matron Childmn't Homin. 

Mti. Wt^llinutuit Whilo RtithuMy Park 

Mm Rot)t CruKkihank. 

Mrt. J. D. Simpion i2i4-3r(l Avo.i. 

Mri. H. ercHlin iB43 Mam St >. 

Mrs. Angus Qraham iW<tn of Principal, Moost^ Jaw Cotlrgn 

Mrs. J. M. Roix >»3 HMhclaga Walk > 

Mt« J. f. Mu<rheacl 1&6I Hocholaga St >. 

Mri. A. J. Young lOullooh, Saak.<. 

M>si NoINh F. Young lOutlook. Saik.i. 

Mm Alberts Gioflflr i1144 Chtiitnut Avo l 

C. L. Hauibergur 233 Stadacona St. Wi. 

Mri. J. A. Macphnrson. 

Mri. V,. A. Maybee i32 Ron St. W.k 
_Mra. Eber Crummy ilOlO Mam St.t. 

Miu Mary E. Underhill (944 Alden Ave >. 

Mrs. Shaw <801 Tomperancn St., Saikalooni. 

MiM M. U. Shaw 18OI Tempurance St., Saskatooni. 

Mill A. B. Shaw iCollugiatu Init., Saikatoom. 

Mrs. Q. W, Rornon (1131 Second Ave... 

Mri. W. T, Cunnmflham. 

A. E. Nuwion i183 Gefrard St., E. Torontoi. 

W. Newton i1B3 Cerrard St, E. Toronto^. 

Mrs. J. W. Siflon iWifu Supt. Sl'woIs; 1032 Mam St.L 

Mm Gracf! R. Hallam i609 Mam St.>. 

Mm Mary Rodgers iSuitf 3 McNair Blocki. 

Mrs. S. T. Robson (16? Coteau St.i. 

Mri Charlei Let) 889 Connaught Ave.i. 

Mn, E. Davison 1026 Hochelaga W.' 

Mrs. J. E. Pennington i670 Athabasca St. W-i. 

Mrs Jas. Smith (1147-6th Ave., N.Wj. 

Mrs. H. R. Read ll038-7th Ave., N.W.i. 

Mrs. A. Cordon l380-7th Ave., N.W.I. 

Mrs. F. C. Clement (?i. 

Miss S. Grace McUan (206 Hochelaga W.). 

Mrs. R. 0. Bewoll 1150 Alyoma Avp ', 

Mrs. W. Hayward 220 Oxrord W.)- 


Mrs, H. Rorison (934 First, N.E.). 

Mfs. Gibbard {.Wife of Librarian). 

Mrs. W. D. Mclntyre. 

Mrs. W. V. Hawkings (361:Athabasca W.). 

Moved by Mrs. Graham, SBCondod by Mrs. J. W. Sifton, and carried unanimously, "that the 

1 of Moose Jaw heartily endorse Winnipeg movement for National Conference on Education, 
and will send as largo a delegation as possible." 

The fullowmg committee was appomied, with power to add to numbers: 

Mrs. Angus Graham, Convenor; Mrs. J. W. Sifton; Mrs, W, T. Cunningham; Mrs. Harry Brodie; 
Mrs. Hibbard Read; Mrs. Dr. Scott iPres. Educ. League). 


- rti 


Date- August 15th. 
Place Prairifi Glut). 
AuspiCf3S CanailiUM Club. 

Chairman Mr. Arthur Mayhdo iManagttr, Bank of CommGrco; Presidtint, Canadian Clubi. 
Forty-ono signaturtis out of attendanco cstimatod at forty-rive. 

G. C. Ingram. 

Arthur Maybee. 

(Rev.) S. T. Robson. 

W. R. Ham. 

A. H. Gibbdrd (Public Librarian). 

J. H. Grayson. 

J. M. Clancy (Manager, Bank of Montroah. 

Alfred W. Maybory. 

Harry Brodie. 

J. H. Wellington. 

A. W. IrvwJn. 

Geo. P. Bawden. 

A. E. Martin. 

F. W. Torney. 

(Rev. I Archdeacon F. Well Johnson. 
Charles J. Lennox. 

G. N. Broatch. 

J. B. Haig (Barrister). 

(Rev. I H. R. Read. 

E. J. Chegwin (Sec,, Y.M.C.A.i. 

H. R. Leonard. 

E. W. Murrnick (?l. 

G. S. Haig.. 

R. H. Clarke. 

J. Macpherson. 

Angus Graham (Principal, M. J. College). 

W. H. Metcalfe (Collegiate Staff-. 

Geo. C. Meldrum. 

A. 0. Gallangher. 

W. 0. Mclntyre. 

J. A. Caulder. 

J. W. Sifton iSupt. City Schools:. 

J. A, Maharg, M.P. (President, Sask. Gram Growers' Association). 

W. W. Davidson iMayon. 

William Grayson (Barrister!. 

James Thompson. 

S. K. Rathwell. 


"lk ^-mik^k^m^_.^.k^^A^r _ mi 

W. Q. Cate> iSupt. Man Power. Sask.). 

W. F. MacBoan ^President, Prairie Club). 

Hugh McKellar i Board of Tradui. 

J. A. Simmington. 

J. A. Maharg. M.P,, sncondBd by J. W. Siflon, Supt. of Schools, moved "that this muoting 
under auspices of Canadian Club, views with satisfaction thi; movament started in Western Canada 
for the foundation of an organizatiim of a national charaiti^r, whoat) objeit shall bti to sci urn, 
whertjver it may avcm wise, ideas and viflws portamino to Education that <an be used in a National 
way for the general improvement of the Educational system of Canada." Passed unanimously. 

In supporting. Mr. Maharg said: "Heartily concur with idea of stimulating Canadian Education. 
We should have National perspective to place before our educators. Our people are biy enough for 
this idea. Clad movement has started m Western Canada." 

Mr. Sifton said: "Much pleasure in seconding. Have greatly appreciated address. We are 
behind in developing National Spirit. Educational system mL«t be toundation of what goes to make 
a great nation. Time we began to think of Nationhood. The school system must be recogniied as 
responsible for what we are to be as a nation." Ho cited examples of Germany and Japan, and went 
on to say: "Ninety-eight per cent, of children of Japan in schools. Time is opportune for us to get 
together. We should develop school systems that will be animated l>y a National Ideal." 

Moved by Archdeacon Johnson and seconded by Principal Graham, "that the following form 
local committee re this project: 

Arthur Maybce i Manager, Bank of Commerce', Convenor; Principal Graham; E. J. Chegwin; 
Supt. J. W. Sifton; Wm. Grayson; G. C, Ingram; J. A. Maharg, M.P.; A. H. Gibbard : Wm. Watson, 
Labor; with power to add. 

Motion of appreciabon of address and of greetings to Winnipeg Committee: E. J. Chegwin and 
Hugh McKellar. 





This IS wnttrn at Riigina on Aug, 17th, at tho < losr o( a work during whith I havo spokrn 
at W(jlsrloy, Swift Cuftfnt. twico at Moose Jaw, and yrstrrday bnfofo thtt Rfgina Canadian Cluh. 
Thi' week hds hi'«n ttiw most suttttsstui in tJii' two summi-ts during whiLh I hdvis lutvn asscNiated 
with thtr id«a. t havi- already transmitted report on Wolsiiloy, and today I shall report on Swift Current 
and Moosn Jaw. 

A detail that may he worth mnntjoning is that in travelling I am being able to bring the Winnipeg 
pro).'.t h.-forp a fair number ot public men, I moan menibtirs of Parhameiit. These now intludti 
'V. F, Coikshutt, Brantford; Hon, T. A. Crerar, Mimstor of Agriculture; Dr, Whiddnn, Brandon; 
Ltivi Thomson. Wolseley; Dr, Cowan, Regina; J. A. Maharg, Moose Jaw. This morning I had a lengthy 
and most gratifying conversation with Premier Martin, Minister of Education for Saskatchewan, on the 
project; while I mentioned it cursorily to Hon, Mr. Langley o( the same government. 

The Swift Current meeting was held under the auspices of the Canadian Club, R. Maulson, 
barnater, presiding. Date August 14th. About fifty present. I regard the signatures in every rjse 
as important. l)ecause I expressly put it that none should sign unless thoroughly favorable. I regret 
that I have nut taken the precaution to have signatories indicate business; but it will be found that 
these meetings, e.g., at Wolseley, Mooso Jaw and Swift Current, have been most represenUbvo. 
Where I know the business affiliation, I put it io. 
Swift Current signatures: 

W. E, Jopp, 

J. G- MacDonatd, 

R. Maulson (Barrister). 

D. Buckles (Member School Board;. 

W. P. Osborne {.Manager, Bank of Ottawa). 

E. Potter. 
A. Walker. 
W. Kerr. 
Ruth Kerr. 

Mrs. E. (Ci A. Dick. 

Hilda M. Dick. 

Thomas Kinghorn. 

Harry Westly, 

R. D. Trumble, 

A, D, Campbell. 

A. B, Elliott iBarristeri. 

W. W. Sexton. 

Wm. Hogg. 

J. A, Fairman (Returned soldier). 

Angus Bam Returned soldier). 

W, Anderson, 

E. Warren, 

A. Peel. 

Mrs. M. M. Bennett. 

R. J. H.ti. 


"'^^^rm^}^. '' ^^-..-.j^.^^^i.^^m^d^ 

John WhiUi iPost Maiton. 

Or. F H. Wtilli. 

Mrs. F. H. W.'lll. 

J. H. Carefoot. 

Jamns 0. Bttgu iBarrisluri. 

John Ti8(lal(', 

H. D. Sctiofiuld, 

Mrs. W. Milburn. 

Wm. Milhurn iShcnffi. 

W. S. Yuln. 

L. M. Yulo. 

'Rov.i H. C. SpiHler ^Baptist. 

Moved by R J. H.ll, srcontlflil by Rrv, H. C. Sprllrr. "that we heartily a.lopt uiea in fav 
National Conference ar.d Burrau on Canadian Eclucalion." Paist'd unanimously. 

Moved by W. E, Joup, an.t 8.;cond.!d by H. T. Covnnry, "ihat the following be the local 

D. Buckles .School board; W. S. Cram Inspertor 
J. G. Laycock; Rev. Mr. WestPrn; N. Lafour; R. J Hill: 
M. M. Bennett; with power to add to numbt;ra. 

J. T. Dodifs. Rrv. 
Rev Mr Gay; Dr 

I. C. Speller; R. Maulsiin ; 
. H. Wflls: Rev. 


Aug. ?7th. J9I8, 
A mr,.l,no of th,. W,on,p,.o Commilt,.,. o„ Ihn Can..l,jr Nal.„oal Cong,,,, on E.lo.alion *a. h,.|,( 
at Llovprnmnnl Hou«o on tho nvrning of thn alwvo datB. 

Mnmh„„ p,n„nt wr,n W, J Bulman, E.l.m ln,„„, D, E. S. Popnan,, J Frank F,*,. D, M H 

Oarvin, H, B, Thomp«,n, Pr,„ nl J, A Ma, Kan, Dr. Da I f«lrln.»„., D V. M,K,.nha, E An,l,.„„n 

KC, H. M. B,Jih,.r. W. F. Osborn,,. 

Propom,!. .,.fon,lc,l, anil rarr,nil, thai Mr. W, J. Bulman ant a« Chairman 

At Ihn „.„„™, of tho Cha„man. Ih„ S^„Ur,. P,„, w F Cwnn, ma,„ a full ,tal,.m„nt «,lh 

rnapoct to thn ra„,„a„„ mat ha,l born ,on,luUn,t on h,hall of th.. c,.n,m,lt u„ng th,. ,omm,., ,n 

Ontano. Man,.„„a an.l Sa.l<atrh,, Tl „.po,t rov , , ,„a,n ,„,,. „„„,. ,„ Toronto. Montr.-al an,l 

W.nn,pog, ,„ ad,l,t,on to th„ f„,„,ng of gr,„„„ ,„ n,„ht , „„■, ,n W,,l,.rn Ontar.o an,l ,„ town, and 
ctips in W,'Stnrn Canada. 

Thn noration of th„ finanring of fhn CorgroM h-on ,nt,o.lorcd and ,liKo««l it „, ™„.,| 

by H. M. B,.|,hnr, ,„i„„il,.„ h, Dr. E. S. Popham, and ra„ ■ a liittiT ho „,„1,.„ ,„ ,ho Canadian 

InduMnal R,.ranM,oction, ration a.king Ih.™ if thn, ar« willing to finan, n in «holo o, ,n pan 
a National Educational ConfiTonc, a> ootl.nnd liy tho Winnip,.u Conimittnn " 

It .a. un,lc„t„o,l that ,.ffo,t, would hn ,ontinu,,l lo sncuro ,o,nl f,„an.,al asaiMamn from ,,g,„ultural 
organiiationi in tho Wiut. Tho meeting then a,ljoo,n,.,l. 

ThB liiltnr wnllon m ac.cordanio with the abovii ,™olution is app..nded. 

Winnipeg. August 28th. 1918. 
Sir John Willis, • 

President, Canadian National Roconstrurtion Asswijlion. 
Toronto, Got. 

My Dear Sir John; 

I am now in a position to transmit to you tho formal application from our Winnipeg Committee to 
your Association in respect of assistance in the fin.i, , ,ng of the National Edu,a,..,n Conference The 
following I, the te.t of the resolution passed liy our Committee at a meeting held at Covernment House 
Winnip,.g, on tho evening of August 27th 

"That a letter bo written to tho Canadian National Reconstruction Association asking ihem if the, 
are willing to finance in whole or in part the Canadian National Conference on Education as outlined by 
the Winnipeg Commitlen." 

I ma, add that all that we ha.o further learned in regard to tho progress of our movement confirm, 
us ,n the l..|ief that, as an aspect of the programme of National Reconstruction, the conference idea has 
groat pot„n,i,|i,,o,. The proje.r.t i, hning r«e,ved with the greatest lavo, in ail part, of Canada. 

Very truly yours, 


riiui'il lor fnuniijl juiiUni i> <.u liatiini.ltril to ihr Canaclfjd Coumil 

12& Kingiway, Winniptg, 

Aug 28th, 19(8. 
Noftmn UrntH'ft, Elq.. 8«.frt4fy, 

Ciinailian CtNjnrtl (t1 A(]ri<ulturf>, 
190 VauglMfl St . Win.ii|K.,,. 
Di'jf Mr Laftitwrt 

Du.,..u th,. u.t 1.,, «jm„.... a ,a.,.„a„ ha. f-rn ca-r.rd Oh m „„«,. ,u,i, „f Canaria l,y «iy 

"' •"°""'"" '" •"" l""/"! 0' »«.of., a r.-pr..i.-nlal,„. National Congrm to <oha..l,., Ih,. ton 

.a» ol makmo th„ , h,^, „| ,h« Don,.,„on m.n„t,., to th,. wolut.oh o( a high ami typo of 

"""'""'"" ^"" *•'"■" ™hco„.J ,n thi •|»„t ol th,. hral ,t,l,ty ,n Ih,. country m th, altompt 

to inliuini,. th.. young i-iti, I .i|ial>l|. and 
in ihjfg.' nl th(. i(i,.a ai. 

.-^hip ol th,i natron at rta rnoit imprr.Mronat)l« stag,- rn the ir>lr.r,.ifs i.| a 
ml,. I nahonal . ori.iiou«n,..i Th,. nanrl nl Ih,. Provrlional Cortimi'l. . ....« 

lontj.ri,.,! on il„, ,lip atta,h..l h,.„.w,lh. A, , I rnrmo ol Ihn worl so la, 
.loi.i. .« lor«ar.l,.l to you by tamo iha.l. Thrj m,.mo iho>.i that *ri... hai l.,,.n aroulf 

prui...! I r.ralo.,. a »hiih n'!!,., „ Ih,. »ay .n «h„h Ih a ,s lir.r.g prcM.nt. 

Tlir. orgrnt ,|o,.,t,on now bi.lorn Ih, Winrirp,.,, Commrll,,. rs Iho l.nannng ol th. ;.. .,,,,.- Wir 

.shnul.. th.» .„ gr.nnral at Wi.OOO. ,l,.(„ou. ol pslahliihing lully Ihn national . h.,ra, i, ,n,... w,. *oi,l.| „.,p,.,|lui|y a.k you, conii,l,.,at.on lo, thn pro(K«ul that tho Cana.l ,,n t^uncil ^1 
Agriiiiltor,. ,„.n »ith other, in ,onl,il,utmg hall or at any rat,. i»m« pari ol the e.p,„i. . „ „l,.,.al ,o 

"'" *"' '" "' ""' Cong,,.... Th, Winn,B,.g Comm.ttn,.. or ,t> „.p„..,.ntativo., would !» (.Ir'as..! lo ■• i 

.111; you, or an, ol tho... cor.tornr.d, the n,.(,.|»ary ,l,.tail,, Wf shall t^ obliged ,1 you Mil br 
lo tho altcnlion of Iho Couni;il at a. early a dati. a. po.»ible, 

Rii.ptxtlully your., 

W. F, Oaborne, Secretary, 

>y tha 
he (1 iblic. 

n.j III, 

Aug. ?8th, 1918, 
On the ocra.ion ol the rerent v.iit ol H,. E.c.llency, the Oovornoi-Gcneral ol Canada, to Wlnmp„g, 
mcmh,,. ol the W.nnipi.o Committee ol the propo.,.,! National CongrcM on had the honor, through 
th.. .ourti..y ol Li,.ut,.nanl.Co,,.rnor S,r Jam, . Aiki,,,, ol wailing upon Hi. Excellency m connection »ith 
the piojeit, Tho object ol the Commilteo to app,i;e Hi. E.cellency ol tho progreu ol the 
movement, ami lo secure H,. E.cellency'. lurther intere.t in the ume. 

Th,. member, ol th,. Comm.tlee pre.cnl at Oovt-rnment Houw on this occasion, in addition lo His 
He or, *,.,e Hi, G.aie Arilil.i.hop Mall,e.on; R,.v, S. R U.dU.. Rev. C. E. Sykos; Chiel Jusliie Mather.; 
Pr,.s.,l,iil J A, Ma, lean; W. J, Tuppir, KC; Eitain Loltus, R. W. Craig, K.C.: J. Frank Fisher; H. M. 
B,l,h,.,; H, B. Thompson; F A E Hamilton; D. W. McKcrchar; Dr. E. S. Popham; E. H, Colorhan; 
Prol. W. F. Osborne. The remaining membets ol the Committee, including Mr, W, J. Bulman, were 
atiBent Iron, the city, 

Tho Secretary of the Committee, Prol, Osborne, made a brief .tatement of the favorable „H:eption 

'" '"" "••>"''•<! I" 'h a throughout the Dominion, and expressed, on behalf ol the Committee, tho hope 

thai Ih,. Congress might ullimately be held un.l.., H.s Excellency's patronage. Hi. Excellency, replying, 
comnunliil on th.i .igmhcaii,,, attaching lo the lad that such a public-spirited movement should have 
liei-n ,,0,11 ...vid at such a lime He expressed the pleasure he felt at hearing ol the succeM that had 
so lar b,.,.n achieved. Hi. Excellency said in conclusion that he had little doubt that he would bo able 
personally to attend the sessions of tho Coiile,e,H.e.